Woman shot and killed by ICE officers in Minneapolis, Minnesota

The latter was for Oreo in response to her comment.

Casdon

It’s the ungoverned nature of his response that is most concerning, not just in Iran but all his foreign policy moves. The potential consequences of the US actions in Iran have not been planned for in any way as far as I can gather, and he thinks he is omnipotent (probably without even knowing what it means).

We can’t know what is or isn’t planned by the US government can we?
It has to be remembered that although the President has a great deal of say in what happens there’s a whole group to advise him of military options.
What would you like to see him do to stop the killings of Iranians and help their cause?

There has been plenty of reporting since it started, so I do think we do have a good idea of where they are with this Oreo, and how unanticipated a position they find themselves in now - it is a case of flying by the seat of his pants, again, for Trump.
edition.cnn.com/2026/01/14/politics/trump-iran-action-retaliation

Lizziedrip 17.37- thank you also.

I am sorry this is another long post, but a neat soundbite is impossible. Carin Mrotz, Minneapolis resident and Senior Advisor in the Minnesota Attorney General's Office, provides this powerful account of what she's witnessing.

"More than 2,400 heavily armed federal agents have flooded the Minneapolis area since early January -- one of the largest federal occupations of an American city in U.S. history. The Department of Homeland Security is conducting the operation over the objections of every level of state and local government, with whom it has made no effort to coordinate even as convoys of masked agents with assault rifles and combat gear descend on quiet residential streets

Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey has called the deployment "wildly disproportionate" and a massive waste of taxpayer dollars, noting "at times, there are as many as 50 agents arresting one person." City Council President Elliott Payne put it succinctly: "This is a military occupation, and it feels like a military occupation."

Thank you to Carin Mrotz, Minneapolis resident and Senior Advisor in the Minnesota Attorney General's Office, for providing this powerful account of what she's witnessing:
"A post for my friends and family outside of Minneapolis. There is a lot of misinformation flying around and I want to share my perspective if it's useful or compelling or helps cut through the clickbait and profiteering.

Over the past several weeks, thousands of ICE agents have been deployed to the Twin Cities and more are expected this week. There are currently more ICE agents than local law enforcement in the metro area. In some places they are visiting businesses that are likely to employ or serve immigrants looking for people to arrest. In some places they are camping out in cars on highway exit ramps and pulling over drivers they believe look like they could be immigrants.

In neighborhoods like mine that are primarily residential with few business corridors, they are staging targeted raids of homes. But they mix it up, yesterday they were driving around the neighborhood and a neighbor reported that an agent pulled over and asked her husband, who was out walking the dog, if he was a US citizen.

Yesterday morning I received a text in my neighborhood group chat that more than a dozen agents were staging outside of a house a few blocks away, legal observers were needed. I put on boots and drove over to a home near our middle school and found the street full of SUVs and men in militarized but not standardized gear with big "POLICE" labels all over them. These men were carrying big guns.

Several of my friends had already been maced and one of the agents was spraying mace into a crowd of observers as casually as a dad might spray his lawn with a hose in the summer. The agents brandished their guns at us a warning, or a threat, maybe both. Neighbors stood on the front lawns and blew whistles or banged on drums and asked to see the agents' warrant. ICE is not supposed to be able to enter a home without a judicial warrant, which is a warrant signed by a judge. If you are a law and order person, that might mean something to you.

Yesterday, after a few minutes of arguing with neighbors, 10-15 agents mustered and broke down the door of the single family home. They entered and after a few minutes, they re-emerged with a tall Black man in a tee shirt, shorts, an unzipped hoodie, and rubber slides. They led him to their vehicle. It was about 15 degrees out. His wife stood on the front lawn, begging to know why they took him. Behind her the front door stood broken, offering no security to a house full of family members, including children.

Several of us observers asked to see the warrant, and I took a picture. I will not share it out of concern for the man's privacy, but it was an administrative warrant, signed by an ice agent, not a judge. If it matters to you that residents follow the law in engaging with our occupying agents, this should matter to you. If you are a law and order person, you might consider that what I witnessed was an abduction, not an arrest."

Across the Twin Cities, raids like this continued all day. On the southside, ICE agents surrounded a legal observer in her vehicle, broke the windows, and dragged her and her passenger out of the car and detained them. Everyone I know knows someone who has either had a relative (or multiple relatives) taken or has been a witness to one of these abductions. The pace of the operations has been relentless, manic, and the agents are acting with remarkable brutality.

Yesterday, as one of my neighbors attended to another who'd been sprayed with mace, pouring clean water in her eyes on the icy sidewalk in below freezing temps, her mother stood nearby on the phone with MPD, asking them to send someone to help. I don't know if their decision not to was strategic or just simply about capacity, no local law enforcement has been present at any of the operations I've witnessed.

If you are someone who believes that you should absolutely just do whatever law enforcement tells you to do and you will be safe and respected, I would ask if you’ve ever had big guns drawn on you by someone yelling orders at you, those orders sometimes conflicting and unclear. And what if they were also spraying you with chemical irritants in 15 degree weather. If someone maced you for blowing a whistle at them, how confident are you in their ability to calmly follow procedure and not shoot you?

This summer our House Speaker Emerita and her husband were murdered in their home by someone impersonating a police officer. How confident are you that you could make sense of the meanings and markings of a uniform under stress? If armed men filled your street and broke down your neighbor’s door without a warrant, how confident are you that you could stay calm? These are questions we are asking ourselves constantly.

I have a lot of opinions about why this is happening, why Minnesota has been targeted and why our elected leaders are making the decisions they are and what will happen next, but this post is primarily to level set and let you know what's going on. Because I also want you to know how we are responding.

First, I want to say that my experiences are those of a white professional who is not at risk for deportation. Immigrants and people afraid of being mistaken for immigrants are having a different set of experiences. ICE has been putting detainees on planes and sending them to places like Texas before their families can even hire lawyers or find out where their loved ones have been taken

People are afraid and avoiding leaving their homes, even to get groceries. After ICE tear-gassed parents and school staff at a local high school last week, our public schools closed and have now re-opened with hybrid learning so that parents who are afraid to send their kids to school have an option.

Neighbors are organizing to protect and care for each other. We observe and document raids. We show up at schools at dropoff and pickup time, we pick up groceries for those who are staying home. Some of the muscle memory of the neighborhood watches we formed during the uprising 5 and a half years ago has reengaged. The Twin Cities is connected and resilient and pissed off and will continue to protect each other.

That is the important thing to know right now: Our cities are under occupation and we are being attacked by our federal government. And we are tenacious and we love each other and we will continue to protect each other. We will continue to blow whistles and bang pots and pans to alert our neighbors that ICE is nearby. We will continue to argue with them and waste their time knowing that someone else will have 15 more minutes to get away. We will continue to share videos of them slipping and falling on their asses on the icy walks and we will laugh hard at them. We have legal tools to fight them and we also have our long history of organizing and resistance." -- Carin Mrotz

In addition to these acts of local solidarity and resistance, on Monday, the state of Minnesota and the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul filed a lawsuit asking a federal judge to halt the "unprecedented surge" and declare it unconstitutional, alleging warrantless arrests, excessive force against bystanders, racial profiling, and raids on sensitive locations including schools and hospitals.

The lawsuit also alleges the operation is politically motivated retaliation against a Democratic state, citing a January 9 interview in which Trump "essentially claimed that Minnesota is 'corrupt' and 'crooked' because its officials accurately reported election results and those results did not declare him the winner."
From A Mighty Girl Facebook page

I’ve read a similar report by an American friend. The whole thing is too horrifying for words. Surely this is the beginning of the end for November’s midterms?

Ladyleftfieldlover

I’ve read a similar report by an American friend. The whole thing is too horrifying for words. Surely this is the beginning of the end for November’s midterms?

That’s what I think

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"I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH THE HENNEPIN COUNTY (MINNESOTA) ATTORNEYS OFFICE ABOUT THEIR INVESTIGATION INTO JONATHAN ROSS AND HIS KILLING OF RENEE GOOD
They are actively investigating (which means they are looking to bring charges if they can get enough evidence to charge him), and yes, it's been substantially hampered by the administration grabbing the evidence and not sharing it. But while the administration's refusal to give Hennepin County access to the evidence is a clear play to cover their own backsides, the Hennepin County attorney working the case, Mary Moriarty, is undaunted. There is a lot of citizen footage of the shooting out there, from all angles, and the Hennepin County Attorneys' office has created a portal for citizens to upload any evidence they have (videos, photos, eyewitness accounts). (link below)
To answer the questions that I know some of you have: Yes, they can bring state charges. No, Trump cannot pardon state charges. And yes, and this is important - THIS PART IS JUST WHAT I THINK, I did not get this from my phone call (in fact they shared very little of the details on the call because they are being very careful, which I applaud) - I think that they will bring what evidence they can to the Minnesota Grand Jury and I believe they will secure an indictment.
HERE IS THE IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY: They are investigating, and I am fairly confident that this will lead to them bringing charges. In fact, I'm certain that the administration is sure of that as well, which is why they are doing everything possible to hamper the state-level investigation. So, if you have any original source material or eyewitness information that may inform this investigation, please upload it in the portal here: hennepinprosecutor.evidence.com/axon/community-request/public/communityevidencerequest1-7-26?

Thanks for your post Elegran 18.47, with the account from Carin Mrotz, Minneapolis resident and Senior Advisor in the Minnesota Attorney General's Office, provides this powerful account of what she's witnessing. She has a senior role in a legal setting so aware that her reputation is at risk if she is not able to evidence her claims/texts etc. Therefore I give it some credence.

Your second post 19.31 - good to know there is a level of confidence that charges may be brought- so that the whole event and evidence can be tested in a court of law. The link for bystanders to send video evidence in real time from multiple angles may help that process.

There should always be an investigation after a shooting by someone armed and in authority, and this case is no different to others presumably.We have an investigation after the same thing when it happens here.
Nobody knows what the outcome will be of course.

Casdon

There has been plenty of reporting since it started, so I do think we do have a good idea of where they are with this Oreo, and how unanticipated a position they find themselves in now - it is a case of flying by the seat of his pants, again, for Trump.
edition.cnn.com/2026/01/14/politics/trump-iran-action-retaliation

Sorry but you or I have any idea what the US military plan to do in Iran and quite rightly it’s not something they want broadcast after all until they do it.

Another article from Anne Mitchell (it would have been just as long if you were reading it on the FB page) :-

"ICE AGENTS SPEAK ABOUT THE SHOOTING IN MINNEAPOLIS
(Source: Time Magazine online - link to full story below)

"In the aftermath of the fatal shooting of Renee Good in Minneapolis last week, Trump Administration officials jumped into a whole-hearted defense of the ICE agent responsible.
The Department of Homeland Security maintained that Agent Jonathan Ross “dutifully acted in self-defense,” and promised to send hundreds more agents into the city despite widespread protests against the agency’s operations.

But behind the scenes, current and former ICE agents have expressed concerns about the agent’s conduct, about the agency’s operations in Minneapolis, and about a broader push by the Trump administration to aggressively recruit more agents.

“I’m embarrassed,” one former ICE agent with more than 25 years of experience told TIME. “The majority of my colleagues feel the same way. It’s an insult to us, because we did it the right way to see what they’re doing now.”

'Problematic'
When asked about the deadly shooting that sparked mass protests in Minneapolis and across the country, both the current and the former ICE agent expressed their reservations about Agent Ross opening fire three times.

“If you fear for your life and you're in imminent danger, policy says you could fire at that vehicle if there's no other recourse,” said a current ICE agent with more than 20 years of experience in the agency."
“If someone is able to make the argument that she was trying to hit him, he feared for his life, and all he could do was shoot…then sure, he can justify it that way. �But I think when you look at it a little bit more, it's … very problematic for him,” the agent said.

The current and former agents spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak on the record on behalf of the agency.

The DHS told TIME that Good had “weaponized her vehicle, attempting to run over our law enforcement officers in an attempt to kill them—an act of domestic terrorism.”

But videos of the incident contradict that account. They appear to show Ross positioned to the side of Good’s vehicle when he fired three shots that killed her, with her wheels turned away from him.

Both the former agent and the current agent also questioned why Ross was assigned to this operation in the first place, given a previous injury involving a driver at the wheel of a vehicle just a few months before the confrontation with Good.

“That, to me, has red flags all over it,” the former ICE agent said.
“So when this person took off, I'm sure that prior incident came to mind, because he's an experienced officer. And then he just reacted, in my opinion, not in the correct way,” the former agent added.

Last Monday, the Trump administration deployed roughly 2,000 agents from ICE to the Twin Cities area amid a growing fraud scandal at day care centers run by Somali residents. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said on social media that the agents are there to conduct “ a massive investigation on childcare and other rampant fraud.”

The current ICE agent pointed out that while the pretense of the immigration operation in Minneapolis is to investigate welfare fraud, neither border patrol officers nor ICE agents in charge of deportation, also known as Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) officers, are trained to investigate financial fraud.

“None of those skills were asked for when they sought out volunteers, or when they pulled people, it was just… we just need people to go out there and flood the area,” the current ICE agent said.
You would bring in a team of HSI special agents who have done that before, who have investigated that type of fraud,” he added, referring to Homeland Security Investigations, an agency within DHS.

The surge in Minneapolis is part of a broad nationwide push by the Trump Administration to meet President Donald Trump’s aim to carry out the “largest deportation operation in American history.”

To meet that goal, ICE has doubled its manpower from 10,000 to 22,000 in less than a year, thanks to its aggressive hiring campaign. To respond to the massive surge of new officers, ICE has shortened the training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Georgia from 13 weeks to six weeks, NBC first reported. The former agent called that a “recipe for disaster.”

“You can't train someone to do all the basic law enforcement stuff, let alone the law. Immigration law used to be a five or six-month course at the academy. How do you know that people are here legally unless you know the law?�You use Google?” the current ICE agent said.

The former ICE agent also said that this rushed training could lead to a domino effect as more senior ICE agents plan for retirement, and the new recruits, who didn’t have as much legal and enforcement training as previous generations, fill the gap.

Some retired agents have also been invited by ICE to rejoin the force, but according to the former ICE agent, the risk of going back outweighs staying retired.

“The biggest concern is jeopardizing your pension. And then, of course, violating the law.�If you're ordered and you know that you're violating the law and you say no, then you stand a chance of being terminated. And then you jeopardize your pension,” the former agent said, adding that some officers are asked to work for 16-hour shifts six to seven days a week. “For most of us, it's not worth it.”
Read full story here: time.com/7345954/ice-agents-renee-good/...

Oreo

Casdon

There has been plenty of reporting since it started, so I do think we do have a good idea of where they are with this Oreo, and how unanticipated a position they find themselves in now - it is a case of flying by the seat of his pants, again, for Trump.
edition.cnn.com/2026/01/14/politics/trump-iran-action-retaliation

Sorry but you or I have any idea what the US military plan to do in Iran and quite rightly it’s not something they want broadcast after all until they do it.

Are you saying that what has been reported in the US press based on what they have been told by government and military leaders is inaccurate?

Giving out certain things to throw people off the scent is what all governments do until they do something, how stupid would it be to actually tell an enemy what will happen.

I think you would only tell an enemy country what you may do as an ultimatum to deter them.
Otherwise you plan covertly.

You didn’t read the article Oreo, judging by that response. If you want to believe that they are lying to the people, that’s up to you. I think they are dealing with a situation they didn’t predict, and not only in Iran.

American Indians held still after a week.
Detained by ICE
www.cnn.com/2026/01/14/us/oglala-sioux-tribe-minneapolis-immigration-enforcement

Casdon

You didn’t read the article Oreo, judging by that response. If you want to believe that they are lying to the people, that’s up to you. I think they are dealing with a situation they didn’t predict, and not only in Iran.

Lying is maybe too strong, just telling people one thing and then doing something different if that’s the best option for them.
I think the US will be prepared for an Iranian uprising as it’s what it’s been hoping for.

Syracute

www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20250430-SD003.pdf

This shows a list of incidents where US citizens were illegally arrested or detained by ICE

You do know that it is not illegal to detain someone who is a suspect, right? Regular police do this all the time.

Those stories are stories. Some may be true or some not, as it seems also some looked like simple mix ups, so they prove nothing other than it's a process which is not perfect.

Nobody is actually being arrested and deported who is an actual US citizen.....

Other than, maybe a 3 year old kid? So people think a 3 year old should be left behind, separated from their parent, put into the social system of foster care? Grow up without their family?

Give me a break.

*Syracute Just wanted to pop in to say thank you for starting this thread.

Beeb

*Syracute Just wanted to pop in to say thank you for starting this thread.

Seconded. Also must apologise because I’ve been getting Syracutes name mixed up with Starfire ( wasn’t concentrating and both names were new to me). Really sorry.

"We Found More Than 40 Cases of Immigration Agents Using Banned Chokeholds and Other Moves That Can Cut Off Breathing"
www.propublica.org/article/videos-ice-dhs-immigration-agents-using-chokeholds-citizens

Oglala Sioux Tribe says 3 of the 4 members arrested in Minneapolis remain in ICE custody.
www.fox9.com/news/oglala-sioux-tribe-ice-arrests

The Tribe has issued a memorandum to federal agencies, highlighting that tribal members are U.S. citizens by statute and fall outside immigration jurisdiction. And therefore, the detention of its members is unlawful and violates treaties.

"This is not a misunderstanding or an enforcement discretion issue," President Star Comes Out stated. "This is a treaty violation. Treaties are not optional. Sovereignty is not conditional. Our citizens are not negotiable."

The Oglala Sioux Tribe is demanding immediate confirmation of who is being detained and where, the release of all enrolled tribal citizens held by ICE, written assurances that the detentions will stop, and direct government-to-government consultation with federal officials

Cossy

Btw, “media hysteria” does work both ways.

Since the death of Renee Good much has been printed about her in YSA media, social and news.

Her family has had to issue a statement denying that this woman had any criminal history and that her wife is not a political agitator.

Her children will be aware of all this, as well as the nasty homophobic remarks.

Whatever she chose to do or not do, in her car, or why, there is no excuse for shooting this woman dead.

Anyone who feels “she deserved” this for not immediately get out of her car need to be cleaner than clean and never have made any mistakes in their own lives.

Would I have got out of my car immediately ? I’m not so sure what I would have done, especially when there was already chaos and many many ICE officers crowding the streets. They are not law enforcement, they are specifically employed to seek out illegal immigrants, Renee Good was not an illegal immigrant.

Sadly, this isn’t an isolated event.

Yet I never said I bought into the other sides hysteria either now, did I? I've said I doubt she was trying to run him over.

So I agree, both sides do it.

Both sides need to calm the f down and look at it more logically.

Us people in the middle see it.

I am a registered democrat; have been for decades. I voted for Obama twice, and then Hilary. I'm liberal but with a common sense approach to it and could see the other side's points, at times, but not enough for me to vote for them.

But Hilary said something. Deplorables. That didn't feel right to me.

Little did I know, that was just the beginning.

Seeing the imploding of the democrats after the election woke me up. I was disappointed she lost, but willing to see if he had something different to offer.

Imagine my surprise the next day when the world went berserk.

The more it went on, the less democrat I felt. I could not justify the hate. Watching people attacked for wearing red hats, watching conservative speakers banned from college campuses, watching the looting, fighting, burning down businesses after the start of so called peaceful protest, on and on, I started to distance myself from that party.

Now, I'm in the middle with a strong lean to the right. I am still registered democrat but thinking I'm going to take the plunge and become independent. Because there are some basic democrat ideals I believe in, one being labor, another being a universal health care....the latter will never happen with either party, though, so it's all hot air.

The corporations that took over our healthcare will never allow their empire to fall. That one's a done deal.

So I only relate to dems who favor labor. Any Republican who decides to do that, I vote for.

Syracute

I find that Starfire ( whether intentional or not ) tries to dominate the conversation with very long comments with a lot of spacing in between that creates a very dominant effect.

That's an interesting take. However, I do a lot of spacing because I always hear people say how hard and annoying it is to read long azz paragraphs. Once I was even told to make more spacing from a friend. So now, that's what I do.

But, way to assume and judge there, eh?