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Friends that depress you!

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Greatnan Thu 04-Oct-12 11:16:25

I have a friend whom I like very much - she has no gc and is not a member of Gransnet, so I can safely tell you about her. She is very pessimistic and her messages are always full of the awful things that are happening in her life. Every time I suggest something she could do to improve matters, she tells me some reason why it won't work.
I told her my good news about my grandson getting into the Royal Navy yesterday, and her only comment was 'You must be worried, it sounds a very dangerous job'. Actually, I am not worried because I know the RN will train him very well, and he will be doing something he loves and making lots of friends.
I manage to keep very cheerful most days, in spite of my own family problems, and I could do without her continually telling me how rotten life is!
I think some of you might have partners like this - Eeyores - so have you any advice as to the best way to deal with her? She wants to come on a short holiday with me but I am afraid it would not be joyous, like my jaunts with Juragran!

Ella46 Sun 07-Oct-12 13:57:47

That's what's so good about this forum, you can let it all out without getting on anyones nerves.

jeni I talk to myself and answer back when I get out of hand! grin

Greatnan Sun 07-Oct-12 13:55:29

Gatsby looks sympathetic and Pudding looks bored. Par for the course. Pudding does sleep on my bed though and I love to hear her purring - such a reassuring sound.

jeni Sun 07-Oct-12 13:53:44

greatnando they give you sensible answers?

absentgrana Sun 07-Oct-12 13:52:19

Exactly jeni It's never going to sympathise with your problems.

Greatnan Sun 07-Oct-12 13:51:45

I live in splendid isolation most of the time and it doesn't bother me - but I have found myself chatting quite a lot to Juragran's dog and cat, whilst I am house sitting for her!

jeni Sun 07-Oct-12 13:48:58

You haven't met next doors cat. It can make you feel an inch tall with one look! grin

gracesmum Sun 07-Oct-12 13:41:46

That'swhere cats and dogs come in very useful, I mean when did you last hear a dog say "You think you've got problems?" or a cat say "Tell me about it" ? smile

jeni Sun 07-Oct-12 13:36:28

I'm the same! I moan more on here than I do in real life. This could of course be due to the fact that when I'm not working I'm on my own and there's no point in moaning to ones self . Is there?confused

Nanadogsbody Sun 07-Oct-12 12:54:58

crimson grin

crimson Sun 07-Oct-12 12:51:58

I probably pour my heart and troubles out on the internet more than, say, in the 'real world' because I know people can switch me off or ignore me if I'm getting to be a pain in the wotsit; much as a prefer emails a lot of the time to phone calls for the same reason. [now imagining the beauty of being able to switch people off at will; I could even switch myself off when I'm getting on my own nerves..which is a lot of the time]. Like now. Here goes [puff of smoke emoticon....]

Greatnan Sun 07-Oct-12 12:38:07

The strange thing is that I am genuinely cheerful, not just on the surface, whilst always being aware of the loss of my daughter. I did obsess about it at first and I am very grateful to the kind friends who listened and sympathised. What I hope I did not do was pour cold water on their happiness, which is what my problem friend does. I would be happy to listen to her real problems - I just don't want her to tell me all the things that are wrong in my own life! I know what they are.

absentgrana Sun 07-Oct-12 12:34:35

gracesmum I also got lost with the bit about bullying on another forum and have absolutely no idea what it was about, why or which forum – let alone what it was doing here. I don't want to know and I'm glad it's gone away. smile

Ella46 Sun 07-Oct-12 12:27:03

One of my friends is always cheerful (on the surface anyway) as she says "A friend in need is a pain in the a**e!" smile

gracesmum Sun 07-Oct-12 12:23:25

Well said gn - I tried to follow the bit where the thread meandered off to something about bullying on another forum (?) and felt I had totally lost the plot (or somebody had) and I am glad that we seem to have back to something I can understand and relate to. It is a cautionary tale - there are some people with whom I can be honest about how I feel (especially on a bad day) and others to whom I would not reveal any misery or negative emotions - but the thing I am reminded of is what my dear MIL said (after she lost FIL) "Nobody wants to spend all their time with a moaning minny. If you are too sorry for yourself, people will hide when they see you coming!"
So I hope I don't take advantage of sympathetic friends and remember to see myself as others see us!

absentgrana Sun 07-Oct-12 12:22:07

I thought people were showing a great deal of sensitivity in their posts on this subject, except for that rather crass joke about emotionally bonkers women of a certain age and even that was just silly stereotyping.

I can't find a post that dismisses someone's illness as being only mental.

Greatnan Sun 07-Oct-12 12:17:28

I can't believe that anybody here would dismiss mental illness as not being real or serious. At the moment, my daugher's paranoia is breaking my heart, and ruining her children's lives.
I had hoped we had heard the last about bullying - nobody is bullying anybody. Stating your opinion in a clear fashion is not bullying, even if people don't agree with you. Can we please move on?

jeni Sun 07-Oct-12 12:08:37

When I was a GP and went to see children with temperatures, the mothers were always horrified when the first thing I'd do was strip off the twenty layers that would be wrapped round them. "They'll catch a chill!" They cried.confused

And yes, those were the days when did home visits!
Some time about the start of the last century!

Movedalot Sun 07-Oct-12 11:58:17

Just scrolled quickly through this thread as I don't have much time for GN at the moment. I have 3 comments:

1 Gilly so much sympathy, we have spoken before and I will PM you.
2 Bullying - I think some people don't understand that it is not what they say but the way they say it. Yes, there are sensitive people on this site so what is wrong with caring about their feelings rather than dismissing them? It won't hurt.
3 Whoever dismissed someone's illness as being only mental needs to understand that mental illness is just as real as physical and should be given just as much help and support, not dismissed like that.

Sorry no time to go back and check who said what.

Nanadogsbody Sun 07-Oct-12 11:51:20

Yes, greatnan one of the pieces of advice on the SIDS website is not to overwrap babies.

elegran I know nothing according to my daughter. How I ever managed to raise her and her brother must be a mystery to her wink

Nanadogsbody Sun 07-Oct-12 11:36:28

Sorry took that wrong way blush

Greatnan Sun 07-Oct-12 11:32:21

Isn't it more dangerous for babies to be kept too hot? Some young mothers are very over-protective, aren't they? When I was young, we all went to bed in unheated bedrooms, sometimes with ice on the inside of he windows and we were a healthy bunch.

Elegran Sun 07-Oct-12 11:27:12

I think it is just a gentle piss-taking at the way at the moment young mothers want us to follow the letter of the law, while mothers everywhere who trust their own instincts somehow have managed to raise their babies quite successfully.

Bags is for you, NanaD not agin you!

Bags Sun 07-Oct-12 11:24:12

dogs, I did not ignore the underlying hurt. Sorry if it seemed that way. I was angry on your behalf because of the totally unnecessary underlying hurt that someone is causing you.

Nanadogsbody Sun 07-Oct-12 10:57:43

That's fine bags you take the piss out of just one example I gave and ignore the underlying hurt.

Elegran Sun 07-Oct-12 10:52:09

Babies are a lot tougher than they look. Just as well or the human race would have gone extinct before it got going.