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Estrangement / Cut off Mum

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b0dhiTree Thu 26-Jan-17 11:09:26

My daughter and I had a good relationship confirmed by lovely Mother's Day cards but after the man who was to become her second husband moved in I got only one more Mother's Day card. The manipulation of my daughter continued and we are now not in contact at all. I am finding it extremely difficult to cope with. I cry a lot and I feel very lonely and isolated. I now have a grandson that I am not able to see as this man has told me I am not a good enough person to be a grandmother. Does anyone have any ideas about how to cope or even, please God, recover?

Madgran77 Sun 02-Apr-17 19:45:55

Actually ...I'm a bit confused as my comment to you has disappeared but you obviously saw it Yogagirl. A couple of other posts I made today to Nina and to Norah have also disappeared. Why does that happen...anyone know?

Yogagirl Sun 02-Apr-17 19:56:48

Madgran Unfortunately there are a few threads now on this same subject and the same posters, I have just copied my posts on another just now, as answering the same question, so maybe your posts are on another confused

nina1959 Sun 02-Apr-17 20:09:30

The saddest thing, well the cause of my frustration anyway, is that we can't save our AC from themselves let alone the grandchildren. The cold war that will eventually land on them is worrying. They've made themselves orphans and I don't know how they will fair once they're in their 50's, life has bashed them a few times, their own kids turn round and say 'sorry but you showed us that we don't owe you a thing' and then they've got no history or family to anchor to in mid life when life has a habit of just turning up and getting real. Oh boy, are they going to wish they had a mum.

Yogagirl Sun 02-Apr-17 20:22:36

I agree Nina When my estD's nasty Husband kicks her out again as he is bored now with destroying her birth family & destroying her little girl, my precious granddaughter[his stepchild], where will she turn [?]

My heart bleeds for my precious GD, as she loved us as much as we loved her, she now only has stepfamily in her life,[aside from my D, her mum] they don't love her, you don't hurt someone you love, especially a little girl, God protect her!

Yogagirl Sun 02-Apr-17 20:32:51

In fact God protect my estD too, once he is bored with her. Although she has been wicked in all she has done in this estrangement, she is actually a victim in all this too, as she would never have cut out her mum & sister, we all loved each other before, very much, without her nasty husband & his mother!

nina1959 Sun 02-Apr-17 20:42:08

I understand Yogagirl. Our AC don't see the future harm they are creating.
I think we just have to hope that our stamina in hanging onto those bonds keep on holding. Very hard though x

Yogagirl Sun 02-Apr-17 20:45:31

flowers Nina

Starlady Sun 02-Apr-17 22:27:37

Apology accepted, Yoga. We all have a bad day/morning, etc. now and then.

Nina, I sometimes wonder about that, too. What happens if those who have co their parents find their kids do the same to them when they're grown? They may think, "Well, I won't do the same things my parents did." But their (future) ac may co them for other reasons, ones they would never have thought of doing it for. It's said that parents teach more by example than anything else, so I wonder, do these people ever think about that?

celebgran Mon 03-Apr-17 09:55:11

Starlady I doubt it and I really Cant think of one reason that our daughter. Pull come up with to justify her cruel relentless heartless behaviour towards her own mum who would have layed Down her life for her, and furthermore I spend 28 heads giving her total emotional and financial support.

More fool me really because when I was tearing my hair out dh working full time and and struggling to cope with menopause, and my beloved f i law with dementia and coping with all his finances and care my daughter said quite proudly sorry I can help I have the baby to think of.
Wow that told me.
And true to her word she never visited her grandad, or gave me the slightest support even on Day of funeral I found out from myndear sons partner at that time she was bad mouthing me.

It was wake up call but I took a very long while to realise how hard and cruel she had become.

celebgran Mon 03-Apr-17 09:55:57

28 years wish could edit these posts ?

celebgran Mon 03-Apr-17 09:59:46

Starlady if us are not wendysue then where is she?
I used to look at themaAmerican forum she moderates and realise she used stories from here,

However it was a very horrid forum with more ignorant posters than we get on here even when we get invaded, as nice posters tend outnumber them here thankfully,
Therefore I soon removed myself.

NorthernSoul Mon 03-Apr-17 17:30:53

Thanks for your support Nina,Yogagirl,Smileless and others.

Feeling more like myself today.

These past weeks have been difficult as we celebrated our Golden Wedding and then Mothering Sunday all without being a complete family,but we celebrated nevertheless.

I know there is much to be thankful for and the weather today has been superb.
The blue tit is nesting in the camera bird box and the spring feeling of new life always gives me a lift .

Thinking of you Smileless and the difficult days ahead. I am sure you will be a great comfort and support to your dil and son.

Good wishes to you all.
NSx

Yogagirl Tue 04-Apr-17 09:17:41

Congratulations on your Golden Wedding anniversary Northernsoul flowers wine [cake] grin

Yogagirl Tue 04-Apr-17 09:19:07

cupcake got to have a cake! smile

Starlady Tue 04-Apr-17 11:10:22

Well, I'm sure I don't know where wendysue is celebgran! Lol! Maybe she's busy with that forum you say she moderates. No idea.

I don't think you're a "fool" for doing all you did. You strike me as someone who gives her all for those she loves, whether her ac or her fil. Sad that ed doesn't appreciate that. Seems like ds does, thank goodness!

Northernsoul, congratulations on your Golden Wedding Anniversary!

NorthernSoul Tue 04-Apr-17 12:00:17

Thanks for your good wishes and yes,I've had plenty of cake! Oh,and a glass or two of champagne.

NSx

Smileless2012 Tue 04-Apr-17 14:48:55

Congratulations Northernsoulflowerscupcakewine

celebgran Tue 04-Apr-17 15:45:02

Thanks starlady?

Northern soul what an achievement golden wedding ???many congratulations

Sorry I missed your original posts but gathered you been through tough time,

It's 40 years ruby wedding for us this year!

orangelemon Tue 11-Apr-17 04:48:36

Thank you for all of your posts ladies..... I read all of them but I find it so hard to find the words about my own situation..... it is so overwhelmingly complicated and those of you who know me a little.... Only know the tip of the iceberg..... flowers flowers flowers for you all..... You keep me going.... You really do xxxxx

petra Wed 12-Apr-17 08:41:40

yogagirl You say that your daughters partner has kicked her out again does that mean there is hope for a reconciliation?

Yogagirl Thu 13-Apr-17 08:07:14

Petra only if his head is turned by another or if the brainwashing of my once beloved D lifts from her brain.
This is where my & the rest of the family being cut out began. I made the mistake of mediating to get them back together, it worked, but he then cut me out & then slower the rest of my D family. It was only after I was cut out I got to see the real s.i.l, but looking back we now realize he always wanted us gone, so he got his wish.

Yogagirl Thu 13-Apr-17 08:11:16

He hasn't kicked her out again yet but we are hoping, as bad as that sounds, as it will mean we will see her and my beloved GC again, after 4.5yrs sad

Starlady Thu 13-Apr-17 15:03:36

Wait... Yoga, you mean sil has kicked estd out before? Along with the gc?

Yogagirl Fri 14-Apr-17 08:20:37

Yes Starlady As I said above this is where the estrangement all began; A big argument between my D& her nasty husband, whilst I & my niceD were on holiday [coincidence hmm She stayed with me,..read above..;he kept the C & house.....He took her back & cut me, then the rest of the family, out!
4.5yrs of grieving & sorrow, especially now at Easter time sad
My whole story is on here, after posting for all these years, can't keep repeating it all.

celebgran Sat 15-Apr-17 10:13:00

Yes gagirl ?
Our hearts will always be broken over this there are now words,

I take delight in my adorable great niece and nephew and you have beautiful daughter and Grandaughter

I also have my wonderful son and to hear him say love you mum is priceless to me.

Our daughter must know how sad and hurt we are and how deeply it has affected my health and her dad but she doesn't care and we have to accept that.

Focus on good stuff yogagirl! Only way,