Continued support and fun aspects too of rebuilding lives after estrangement can't believe 4 years and we still here to offer help, friendship and support.TWO

Proudly give kisses!

Just finished watching 'Diana our mother' and got through several tissues in the process.

Made me wonder if our EAC remember the hugs and cuddles we used to give them and them us and made me wonder if they ever miss our love.

Life is strange isn't it; William talks to his children about his dead mother and has photo's of her in their home because he wants them to know they had two grandmothers while our EGC know nothing about us even though we're here.

I watched that too Smileless, wasn't going to, but they did put the record straight. I always thought she had the most beautiful smile and caring nature, much had been made of her negative traits, these were far outweighed the good she did. So glad her boys love her so much and still feel that love, she made them what they are today. It made me cry, thinking of that day they were made to act like grown ups and follow her coffin, for all they have in life, nothing makes up to those men for that loss of their loving mother. I do think your son must think of all those years when you were close, he has for some reason tried to blank it out, but it will catch up with him. You never forget those that realy love you. The older you get the more you realise that. What I do know for sure, is that if you hurt someone who loves you unconditionally and dont put it right, you will never find peace.

Beautifully put Luckylegs.

Dh recorded it i am So emotional didn't trust myself watch it at moment,

Luckylegs do you really think that?
I used to think xxx could not get happiness on back of such cruelty to me and her dad and ignore so many that loved her.
However she certainly seems happy.

We will never know will we?

A friend said few years ago your daughter will not win as she has to live with what she has done,

Feeling very yuk still so had cancel acquacise

Never mind off get dh new phone later chose it fri but they kindly said wait til next week or you will have pay 2 months,

Lucklylegs and smilless dh will have new mobile no he will try text you after my op.
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Where has ? Gone it's awful here cold wet and windy.

Yes it amazes me that William and Harry still love and miss their mum so after 20 years and keep the memory alive for Williams children that's wonderful.

Ps we also going see Dunkirk this evening looking forward to that.

*Celebgran*What exactly is your operation going to do? Is it knee replacement?

No rhinestone much more major than that

I am having a 3 hour operation to stabilise and decompress my verterbrae
They are pressing on a nerve.
2 screws will be inserted made of titanium (titanic) and a cage.
Some of bone will be cut.

That's most I know seeing surgeon tomorrow.

Celeb - just to say Don`t Panic if after the op you feel worse for a while. A friend had a similar op and was convinced it hadn`t worked, but given a bit of time it has made an enormous difference to her life.
Good luck with the surgeon tomorrow - I hope he is someone who is easy to talk to

I agree Smileless that its wonderful that Prince William talks about his Mum to his children, to keep her memory and love alive. But that reminds us of our own estDC, and their attitudes to us.

Like to add my good wishes,Celeb,for tomorrow..you will be in safe hands.

I too have thought of those boys,William and Harry.
It was an event attracting worldwide coverage and it was for them the loss of their mum..tragedy thrust upon them at an early age.

At a similar age to Harry,my mum lost her father tragically and this coloured the rest of her life.She wasn't allowed at the funeral and couldn't talk about it as we can today.
I did some research and found his death and subsequent inquest was reported in the newspapers.Sadly mum had been dead a few years when I found out.
But I felt in some way I'd laid it to rest.
Can understand why the boys want to do just that.
Be at peace.

NSx

Celeb, all the best for today.x

Good wishes for today from me too. I am just popping in to say the wedding went well and thank you all for your kind comments and wise words - especially the ones about buttoning my mouth which Served me well now and again.
They are off on honeymoon now for three weeks. I could say more but today is for thinking about your friend celeb!

Celeb hope all goes well with your consultation today.

Oh thanks all of you ladies and eddiecat also thanks my dear gp warned me I won't feel great after op surgeon mr Cummings is extremely nice man so will be ok.

New patio door fitted this monring oh gosh why am I always the soap boxer it is beautiful but squeaky and spotted miniscule scratch so dh rings and they said use oil no way brand new door so I rang he came straight back and sorted it nice fell
A son of owner and they going sort another couple jobs too, just it's always me who has to sort stuff are other ladies the same? X

Yes Celeb, when Mr. S. sorts stuff out it's usually because I
keep on nagging asking him too until he does.

I have come to the conclusion that DH`s don`t see things that we do see - I often leave things on the bottom step and take them upstairs next time I go - presumably DH can`t see these things because he will actually walk over them rather than picking them up!

Anyway - when does gentle reminding become nagging?!

From a man constructive criticism, from a woman nagging!?Have another one

Best of luck with your hospital app today Celebgran My friends husband had his op Monday [same as yours], please to say all went well and he is sitting up in bed albeit with lots of pain killers.

Wish I had a nice husband to get the jobs done

Thanks yoga was yesterday going pm u ref your friend.

It was awful dh gets sooooo stressed he could t park etc etc and we had new patio door fitted I was all tearful about daughter wrote letter but won't send my dear son advised against,
He's right I got focus on coping not upset myself again.

We waited hour and half mr Cummings had 31 patients to see??.
I felt rushed and sooo stressed but went through all my questions
He is fitting screws (titanium)and rods not a cage.
I was upset as he said it has to go wrong for someone?
However he said again done hundreds and ladies I have no choice.
Thanks for tremendous love and suport from you all
Going struggle acquacsie now

Celeb - I`m sure you know that doctors have to tell you that things can go wrong - they are worried about being sued if it does and they haven`t warned the patient! That doesn`t mean it is likely to go wrong.
xx

Celebgran Good luck today with surgeon.
I was just curious. Does your son speak to your ED? My stepdaughter doesn't want to get involved so we found out about my ESS 's back operation thru my friend who teaches with him.
EddiecatMy DH does the same when I put things on the steps. It drives me nuts.
I read an article about the princes from Diana's brother saying he was lied to about the boys walking behind their mother's casket. I just don't get the Royals making those young boys do that for show. How unbearable that must have been.
DH having a small procedure on Monday to find out if the heart attack symptoms were really digestive ones.

No rhinestone he has written and in first place spent day with her but sadly his opinion of her took nosedive when she involved police.

He said he wouldn't turn her away if she contacted him but he has to see me his mum in tears a lot and it has affected him.

I know eddiecat just wish he had wrapped it up a bit! X

By way loved acquacsie but home to find dh started grass, no hooveringndone or washing so sorted out 2 lots he seems sooo stressed and I will have try keep quiet as I,know he is just worried, it isn't helping!

Cleaner coming at 2 yippee.

celebgran I hope your questions were answered in a reassuring way today, and the op goes smoothly.
Remember if you are feeling rough after op, we on here will all be missing you and your posts and opinions. Sending ((( hugs ))) in advance for the post op experience xx