Not another one!

Diana, I feel sorry for you, what happened with you and your husband has obviously coloured your view on the dynamics of husband and wife. I personally, would not want a husband I could manage, like the household accounts or a dog or cat. If everything is based on the superficial that would suck the life out of me. I didnt just love my husband, we shared the same sense of humour, he was very kind and supportive as I hope that's how I was to him, we put the other first. I was lucky, we were best of friends, that's why I can't fill the gap. If you arecsoending all your time papering over the cracks in the the relationship, I truly can't see the point, perhaps when the children are older is when a lot decide to part, it certainly can't be an easy decision, every time you divorce you end up with half, so the decision wouldn't be based on what you could ring out if them.

Blimey shorts, I don't think so! I have a sturdy winceyette nightie I bought from St. Michaels some years ago. It is perfectly serviceable and keeps Mr Batty at arms length if needs be.

Having read the OPs post I am amazed how much she knows about everyone elses business even her next door neighbour,so glad I don't live near her to be honest.
To call one of your daughters "the prettiest" is disgusting for any mother to say imo.

Oldbatty....love it ???

Oldbatty, there speaks a woman after my own heart!

Wow for condemnatory posts this thread must take the prize. So how about a bit of balance? There are women who think men are a bit of an encumbrance and having had children want rid of them. There are men who abuse women and need to be got rid of. But what remains at the end of all of this are children who need to have a mother and a father. That is one reason that the divorce law wants a 50/50 financial split. This means of course that the father must take 50% of responsibility for the children and many men won't. So what I would say Diana54 is forget about the divorces they are beyond your control but ask your nephews to ensure that they make sure they take responsibility for their children (and not just financial responsibility). It often isn't easy and there are mothers who will make it even more difficult. As for your DGS teach them about contraception and that babies and children remain the responsibility of both parents whatever the relationship of the couple.

if I wandered about the house with my boobs out I think I'd trip over them nowadays

again muffin!

muffin, I might fling mine over my shoulders.

batty, I remember us singing that song in primary school. Little did I know then I would one day be wondering if I could indeed tie them in a knot, or tie them in a bow.

Tried to cook breakfast this morning before putting bra on and nearly crisped one in the frying pan. It's a sad day

oldbatty

The song has a much ruder version as sung by rugby players, at least in my father's day. I will leave that to your imagination.

muffin

Specki4Eyes, you could be describing my son’s experience. It is normally assumed that the man is to blame for adultery etc, but definitely not always so. There are definitely some scheming women out there, setting a bad example to their children.

Trisher, I so agree with you about teaching boys (girls, too) about contraception and that both parents share responsibility for the kids, regardless of their relationship. But isn't that up to the parents to teach them?

Yes of course it should be the parents Starlady but no harm in the extended family if they are close adding to the message.

Wow!

I'm reminded of a line from one of L. M. Montgomery's immortal novels.

"I like cats as IS cats, not cats as is women".

Referring to women as "golddiggers" is positively Edwardian, isn't it, if not antediluvian? Women in their 30s are the worst? I can only imagine what that poster thinks of the Duchess of Sussex.

Men have their faults. Women have their faults. But to say men should 'avoid' marriage in case they are trapped is ridiculous. Maybe one should try teaching a boy what to look for in a wife, so they don't make mistakes, while AT THE SAME TIME teaching them how to be a good husband and dad. Any male can father a child, but it takes a real man to actually be a dad. A workaholic who spends 12 hours a day at their jobs is not a "dad".

What a desperately bitter post from Diana, and what a contemptuous attitude to marriage and her H. She tells us that her H was captain of the rugby team and handsome, but not why she married him. Just for those two factors? Was she looking for a trophy husband who was looking for a trophy wife? That is a very poor foundation for marriage.

DH could never be described as a trophy husband, then or now and I certainly would not demean myself by trying to manage him. He is his own person and any attempt to do so would be doomed to failure. Come to that, I do not think I was ever a trophy wife. Nor have I ever seen other women, especially single women, as being predatory vamps trying to take my husband from me.

Mind you, I have met one or two women who were convinced that every woman they met was after their DH, whether they were married or not. It was quite amusing to see one of these women at work at a business do. She was convinced I was after her husband. I worked with her DH and we got on really well. But that was it. Apart from anything, I was 10 years older than her DH and both of us were happily married and neither of us showed any interest in straying.

Women in their 30s are the worst?
I think DD earns more than her partner!

Monica's post is exactly why I dislike a lot of women.
I didn't marry a trophy husband, I fell in love with and married a 21 yr old apprentice plumber, a smart one who turned out to be a good leader, in business and sport.

Like a most men he wasn't perfect, in the 40 years that we were married I was unhappy for 2 weeks. I think that's pretty good, congratulations to all of you that are perfect wives with perfect husbands.

Do you dislike a lot of people, Diana, or just a lot of women?

Did you lose the weight and wear the shorts after 2 weeks.....impressive

congratulations to all of you that are perfect wives with perfect husbands.

Thank you

I have never ever pretended I was the perfect wife, nor DH the perfect husband because neither of us have been or are. But for two weeks unhappiness you have been bitter for a very long time.