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Lords Prayer advert banned

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Anniebach Sun 22-Nov-15 23:20:19

Cinemas have banned an advert for Christianity, seems The Lords Prayer could offend those of different faiths and of no faith, the secular society supports the ban.

nigglynellie Mon 23-Nov-15 14:44:15

I love church music, I love the words, particularly the Psalms, The Gloria, The Nunc Dimittis, and a host of other things. Do I believe in it? probably on balance, I don't, not because of world affairs. It just seems too fanciful, and I know I wouldn't want to listen to the Lord's Prayer in the cinema, it would make me squirm if I'm honest!

rosesarered Mon 23-Nov-15 15:01:03

I hope that all cinemas will stick to the sensible policy of no religious adverts from any faith.I also wish that schools in Britain were secular, and had pupils from all faiths ( no faith schools of any kind.) This would promote knowledge of various religions by the pupils getting to know each other, and give them a better understanding all round.We have too many divisions.

Luckygirl Mon 23-Nov-15 15:13:16

Think of it as opera! - you love the music, which is telling a story, but don't believe the story.

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 15:29:41

Pile of attention-seeking nonsense if you ask me. How to put people off religion.

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 15:31:28

Apparently the ad couldn't be shown on TV either because of prevention of bias rules. Are CoE going to sue the BBC?

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 15:32:11

Ha! oops! I mean ITV. #notellyforyears

felice Mon 23-Nov-15 15:32:23

On hearing the advert I thought perhaps it had actually been banned because it was awful, I love The Lords Prayer as it is, this was just a mess.

felice Mon 23-Nov-15 15:33:15

On hearing the advert I thought perhaps it had actually been banned because it was awful, I love The Lords Prayer as it is, this was just a mess.

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 17:08:49

Should the queen stop referring to her faith in her Christmas message ? Is she attention seeking ?

rosequartz Mon 23-Nov-15 17:30:19

I think the cinema chain is right in adhering to its policy of showing no religious or political adverts. If it showed this advert then it would open up the floodgates for other groups, religious and political, to be able to show theirs and who knows where it would end.
What are other cinema chains doing anniebach - do you know? And where else is the advert being shown? If a lot of places refuse to show it then the C of E didn't do their groundwork very well and have wasted a lot of their money on this.

I don't mind where anyone sings hymns, carols or recites the Lord's Prayer - in fact on Remembrance Day there were a lot of us reciting it out in the open air. People could join in, listen or walk past as they wished.

Christmas is a commercial enterprise nowadays - but there are still many churches filled with parents and children at Christingle Services, nativity plays, people attending Midnight Mass, carol services etc and vowing (and failing) to attend church more regularly in the following year.

rosequartz Mon 23-Nov-15 17:36:48

Does anyone remember Cliff Richard singing the Lord's Prayer - didn't the BBC ban it? I think it was called The Millennium Prayer and was set to the tune of Auld Lang Syne.

nigglynellie Mon 23-Nov-15 17:45:18

Yes, it was awful! Sentimental, gooey and yuk!! But no one made anyone listen to it, you could turn it off,

Eloethan Mon 23-Nov-15 17:54:03

I would not be pleased to be assailed by an advert for UKIP, the Labour Party or any other political party, or to hear an extract from the Koran or a poem extolling the virtues of atheism when I have paid to go to the cinema to see a film. Everybody has different beliefs and they are free to propagate them in the sort of public spaces where people can make a choice as to whether they want to stop and listen to them. I think it is unreasonable for followers of any faith or other set of beliefs to think they have the right to propound such beliefs when the people exposed to them have no choice but to listen/watch.

If we take to its logical conclusion the view that if one does not believe in the story behind a particular religious festival, such as Christmas, then one should not celebrate or acknowledge it in any way, then surely it would mean that people should only attend or celebrate weddings, funerals and festivals conducted in accordance with their own religion or other belief system.

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 17:57:25

I don't know Rosequartz, perhaps all cinemas. Our church too is full for the blessing of the crib, Christingle, Mass, it's great , then back to the usual untill Easter . Been this way for quite some time. I think it good that so many find time during the holiday to still want to celebrate what to me is a joyful time,

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 18:07:05

The church is useful for the hatched, matched and dispatched brigade , this I do think is hypocritical,

I close friend - who is a priest - had the funniest newspaper coverage a few years ago. A couple arrange the baptism of their baby, my friend met the godparents , two declared they were atheists but had agreed to be godparents because they were close friends of the parents, my friend refused to allow the baptism to take place with atheist godparents, the parents went to the press which declared a baby had been turned away from a church because the child was named after a film role ! So funny but what fibbers , why not tell the truth, my friend would not give the press the truth because he thought it wrong to do so

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 18:32:34

I don't think that was banned rq. Perhaps it should have been. winkgrin

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 18:33:33

ab you try to stop her! grin

Anniebach Mon 23-Nov-15 18:46:18

But Jingle, the majority who listen to her think she is talking rubbish grin

Anya Mon 23-Nov-15 19:24:35

So murder, rape, theft, is acceptable but not a prayer ?

Do they really advertise these Annie confused

thatbags Mon 23-Nov-15 19:25:29

Of course the Queen is attention seeking in her Christmas message. If she didn't want our attention she wouldn't be doing the message.

But my point was not that I regard the CoE wanting to tell people to say the Lord's Prayer as attention-seeking, but the threat to sue the cinema chain for not showing it, when it's perfectly obvious that the reason given is a sound one. It is said that all publicity is good publicity. I suppose the Archbish is banking on that.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 23-Nov-15 19:26:00

Only in your tiny mind ab. (what sort of people do you mix with? confused)

Ana Mon 23-Nov-15 19:31:01

What a sweeping statement, anniebach - how do you know what the majority thinks? hmm

rosequartz Mon 23-Nov-15 19:32:58

So murder, rape, theft, is acceptable but not a prayer

I suppose some of the trailers for some of the horrible films are adverts

What are they advertising for exactly - adverts usually promote something and are a commercial enterprise so presumably they are 'advertising Christianity'.
What would Jesus say about that?
Rather like the money changers in the temple only in reverse.

janeainsworth Mon 23-Nov-15 19:35:16

It's not compulsory to watch the Queen's speech anyway confused

rosequartz Mon 23-Nov-15 19:37:11

But Jingle, the majority who listen to her think she is talking rubbish
Is that intended as an oxymoron confused

Surely the majority who listen to her agree with her and respect her opinions.
The ones who may think it is rubbish presumably wouldn't bother to watch hmm