Repeal of fox hunting

So since May and the general election the government has shelved the Human Rights Act, the fox hunting relaxation and Evel but has attacked the poorest, whilst giving more to the wealthy, and now is beginning to attack the unions. Not a very edifying record is it?

True whitewave but a very Tory government record

Why are people being taken in by it all?
I must admit I do not know anyone who will admit to having voted Tory now.

I'm asking because, as I understand it, current Scottish law allows what the Westminster government was proposing in the amendment under discussion, so I'm puzzled why the SNP wants to block the amendment unless the Scottish government intends, in short order, to change the Scottish law on fox-hunting.

Asking what ??

As said before, there are 2 separate issues here. The Hunting ban- and the large number of foxes in uk towns. For the second, as said before- and back by long-term and rigorous research by the University of Bristol, foxes are very good at regulating their numbers in face of the amount of food available.

Those who feed urban foxes, however well intentioned, must stop, or they are signing their death warrant. And those who drop litter and leave food litter all over our towns, be it McDonalds or open bins at the back for restaurants, gardens or in the street, must be stopped too.

When food is plentyful, all vixens will breed and have several cubs. As soon as the food source becomes limited, only the strongest vixens will breed and have 1 or 2 cubs max. Simple and proven.

Talking about Scotland, and not on a political level. Research has shown that the % of young lambs lost, often attributed to foxes- is the same on Scottish islands that has foxes present, and those that do not. Now that does not mean that there are not rogue foxes who do take a liking to a bit of lamb- usually the weak, dying or dead- but overall the figures are the same. Bad weather and other factors (and in some cases isolation, lack of checks- call it poor husbandry) are much more significant. A rogue fox is easily despatched by clean and quick shooting if necessary- I have no objections to that at all. No need to chase them for hours with dogs, truly, and the vile tradition of 'cubbing' which would make most normal people sick and is well hidden from the public.

And of course, many hunts have been caught breeding foxes for hunting- call it canned hunting as in Africa. Or catching pregnant vixens to pen up so her and cubs can be hunted, or trapping young cubs and pen up for the same. Totally blowing the argument that foxes are too numerous. BTW the fox is the only effective predator in the UK (we have lynx here) of the far too numerous rabbits and vermin around farms- so they do an excelllent job in clearing such and helping farmers.

I suppose the only consolation is that if DC goes on as he is the left and middle ground will have a field day at the next election when people realise the true colours of this lot.

In fact I have never voted Labour in my life (nor indeed Conservative) but I would be tempted next time, as I think so many others will be.

I think the SNP want to change the law in Scotland so it is similar to the one in England. That's why they do not want the English law to change, aston.

Our local farmer had nine sheep killed by a domestic dog in the last few weeks. The fox seeks food for its young and for it lifebeing, not quite the same with domestic dogs so should we hunt them as well.
Birds of prey are hunters in the sense that no domestic animal is safe from their claws. Then of course there are the people who enjoy killing animals for so called sport with guns.

Killing any animal for any so called sport that actually mainly exists because it gives people a kick is sheer barbaric.

The thought of people hunting foxes for so called sport sickens me to the core . Regardless of whatever excuses are made ie population control , foxes killing livestock etc etc it is a fairly disgusting practice .
Those who say foxes are vicious because they kill and don`t eat , what makes this different from the hunt, I don`t see them eating what they kill either .

Man is the most dangerous animal on the planet , not many other animals kill for fun.
Saying that I could quite easily chase a hunter across a field with a pack of dogs and enjoy it . Same goes for the scum who hunt and kill Tigers, Lions and other majestic creatures then post pictures on the internet . I would love to take their weapon and make it a fair fight .