GNHQ here - please read

It is ironic that this thread has resulted in one poster being denied a voice though however controversial. If she posts again, perhaps arbitration would be the grownup/ mature thing to do?

I'm sure that Mumsnet is far worse.

Is this age discrimination?

It seems prevalent in all social media for some people to think that it is ok to be rude to the point of being totally offensive to complete strangers. I always wonder if they were two people meeting in the street, would they do the same ?

Honestly? I've had 2 posts deleted recently ,one for something that was MY opinion and not aimed at anyone in particular .As far as I was concerned it wasn't "vitriol" as someone posted it was fact,with regard tothe OP I had posted on and the other was because I used a word that had been said to me BY a racist 40 years ago.
Maybe I inhabit a different world from the rest of you but if I found as many things offensive as some I'd just walk away from GN ,I've been called some awful things by the same few folk only once did I complain and it wasn't dealt with at all and you call young folk "snowflakes"!!

trisher I agree with you but I dislike people being rude/unkind to a poster who is looking for help or advice, as sometimes happens.

GN Nanny is much stricter than MN Nanny, indeed.

I used to be a frequent poster, but now only pop in occasionally, some threads are too easily taken over and then I stop reading.

We are fortunate to have free speech in the UK but it comes with great responsibility to not abuse it.

It is interesting to compare the two types of moderation going on between the forums.

I think that there is no doubt that it is different.

I wonder what the different type of training is? Why the decision was made to be different. Are the moderators only employed on one forum or do they swap?

Of course they have to comply with the law, but that would be true if both sites.

Perhaps some grans are a bit flaky and complain a lot more than others, and to shut them up GNHQ take the easy option?

I’ve reported a few posts but only where I think they are breaking the law- largely race law.

So now we know to avoid the quote function (which I only just discovered, anyway) if we are quoting something controversial.
Thanks, lemongrove.
I don't like it anyway, as it quotes the whole post not just the bit you want to draw attention to.

This is going well isn't it!

chewbacca ???

Whitewave.....the answer is ‘no’. I realised that defending myself from a whole raft of personal remarks (for which there was no justification) would just make things worse.
I cannot believe, that on a thread instigated by GNHQ asking for consideration from posters, that this would happen!
I can assure you I am not at all ‘flakey’ neither do I complain a lot.HQ had already deleted many posts of their own accord.
Hope that sets the record straight.

Not sure where lemon and ggtenth have gone? Perhaps they are busy arbitrating and will come back with everything settled? That would be a good victory.

Oh sorry posted too soon, and my question was answered. I wasn’t expecting you to defend yourself that isn’t what arbitration is about, but perhaps it is asking for the impossible.

That told me????

trisher

Maybe I'm just a tough old bird having spent some of my teaching career in places where the names I was called and the attacks made on me were real, and could, if not managed properly, become physical,, but actually compared with what is said on much social media the attacks on GN seem fairly innocuous to me. Now I can understand that some people don't want to get into debate and discussion that can get heated, and that's their privilege. I also understand that there are some posters who are looking for help and understanding and who want support and if they are using GN for that it is something that shouldn't be abused. What I can't understand is why one sort of thread should take prescedence over another, or why a whole thread has to be deleted because two posters have a spat. It's a bit like the old actions of teachers when the whole class was punished for the misbehaviour of a few. It doesn't work. Mostly because some of the people who actually cause the disruption don't recognise their responsibility and so go on to repeat the actions. I think that is evident from some of the posts on this thread.
I do by the way recognise I am at times abrasive and call people out. (That's before some step in to tell me so) But I can take any sort of criticism and will never be defined by the things said about me, or to me, on GN.

Couldn't agree more trisher.

I think:

1) Disagreement is fine. Just because we're old doesn't mean we've lost interest in society.

2) IMO only outright prejudice should be deleted (racism, sexism, ageism).

3) Some posters aren't aware of the offensiveness of their posts and don't like being responded to. Not sure what can be done about that, not everyone has the ability to see the emotiveness of their language.

4) It doesn't bother me at all when posters attack me. If I didn't like it I wouldn't return to the thread.

My post about flaky wasn’t aimed at you lemon why did you think it was? Neither do I know if you ever report anyone, you seem very defensive?

FarNorth - instead of using the quote function you can copy and paste the part you're referring to.

Whitewave there is nothing to ‘arbitrate’ why should you thinks so ( did you actually read the posts?)
All that happened was a series of posts aimed at me ( many posts!) and HQ deleted them. End of.

It's just ironic that posts were deleted on a thread asking posters to be polite and stay within the guidelines

No didn’t have time they seemed to be on automatic delete button.

But it was just a thought rather than keep getting something zapped, why not try to pacify the situation? Anyway she seems to have given up now but perhaps you could try a different tact next time? I assume she didn’t post whatever it was for no reason but in reaction to something you posted. She doesn’t seem an unreasonable poster to me, just like you she has strong opinions.

I only suggest it in the interests of keeping things reasonable.

You are completely and utterly wrong in this case Whitewave.... and there isn’t a different tack to take.
If you had read them you would know.

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I don't think the problem lies only in political threads. The Estrangement and Relationship threads certainly take a bashing at times!