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Please GNHQ ... would you consider letting *EllanVannin* come back to this site?

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Urmstongran Fri 03-Dec-21 15:34:03

This lady of 81y lives alone and GN was a great source of company for her. These long winter days are difficult for many to cope with at the best of times. I learned recently that she was given a lifetime ban. I feel very sad about this.

In the spirit of ? and goodwill to all, would you let her rejoin?

GagaJo Mon 06-Dec-21 16:03:13

I haven't had the 'rap on the knuckles' yet. But I've seen enough get it to know that there is stuff GNHQ won't tolerate. As I'm sure anyone who has interacted with me on here knows, I'm more than capable of being offensive. But I've made an active choice not to take it as far as I might, given free reign.

With a mouth the size of mine, I really don't understand why others can't just keep it to an acceptable level. Particularly those like EV who rely so much on this site. If you need it, don't get to a point where you are liable to be banned.

kircubbin2000 Mon 06-Dec-21 16:02:37

I don't know the lady at all but I think it's a pity that we are now wondering what her 'entrenched views are! Did she actually mean any harm by whatever she said ? Are we accusing her of 'wrong think?

muse Mon 06-Dec-21 15:00:17

Lovely to see that post Hebe?? and thank you.

A massive thank you too, to Urms for starting the thread.

ixion Mon 06-Dec-21 13:44:07

Thank you Hebe!
And a Happy Christmas to you all ?? ?

BlueBelle Mon 06-Dec-21 13:40:35

It’s good that there’s a crack in the door, fingers crossed

Oopsadaisy1 Mon 06-Dec-21 13:38:11

That’s good HQ thanks for listening.

Granniesunite Mon 06-Dec-21 13:33:33

Wonderful news Hebe I hope the lady is welcomed back soon.

LauraNorderr Mon 06-Dec-21 13:09:45

Thank you Hebe.
If you’re reading EllanVannin please get in touch with GNHQ. We’d all love to welcome you back in time to wish you a happy Christmas and to share some hot chocolate and lots of crumpets.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 06-Dec-21 13:07:18

Thanks Hebe.

Marydoll Mon 06-Dec-21 13:03:46

Progress indeed! Thank you Hebe!

TillyTrotter Mon 06-Dec-21 12:27:44

Thank You Hebe.

HebeGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 06-Dec-21 12:22:36

Afternoon, everyone. Thanks for the thoughts here. We have been reading and discussing here.

A permanent ban really is a last resort at Gransnet. We always try to exhaust every other avenue first and explain where there are issues, and give as much feedback as we can. So it's never something we do without long and careful thought.

However, if EllanVannin would like to drop us a line at the usual address, we'd be happy to have a chat with her about it all and see what can be done.

May7 Mon 06-Dec-21 11:35:26

Just adding my support to EV and hope the matter is resolved soon

Alegrias1 Mon 06-Dec-21 11:20:24

I didn't interact much with EV but we did have differing opinions on things. I don't have a strong opinion of her being allowed back or not, so this is nothing to do with that. (And no, I didn't report her)

But.

Can we stop demonising people who report things? I don't report often but I recently reported a thread that could have alarmed and frightened people for no good reason and was based purely on unfounded speculation. Months ago I reported someone for posting really offensive sexist jokes based on breath-taking stereotypes of women as sexual predators. I'm really not interested in whether those posters feel got at or not; they need to think before they post, or take the medicine.

Chewbacca Mon 06-Dec-21 11:12:59

I understand these are posts that inform others actively how to break the law. E.g. how to plant
a bomb, or how to seduce minor children.

Strewth that's a bit extreme! Never seen anything even remotely like that on GN.

J52 Mon 06-Dec-21 11:08:28

Caleo I’m not suggesting EV did anything like that!

Caleo Mon 06-Dec-21 10:54:25

J52 wrote:
"There are some ‘opinions’ that are illegal to voice on an open Internet forum.
"

I understand these are posts that inform others actively how to break the law. E.g. how to plant a bomb, or how to seduce minor children.

trisher Mon 06-Dec-21 10:12:31

GagaJo

trisher

I do think the idea that because you are older you can't have progressive views is something that needs stamping on. Age is no excuse for unacceptable views. Sometimes you might be a little bit behind the times but racism, homoophobia and sexism aren't a product of age, and no one should be permitted to say things just because they are old.

Of course it is possible to be older and progressive. But there is the stereotype, isn't there? Both examples, of progressive POV and also regressive POV are evident in the forums.

My POV is that bigotry is never acceptable. But it happens. And when it isn't reported, GNHQ aren't aware of it going on (there are thousands of posts in the forums everyday, they can't see them all). But if they are aware, well... brand image must be maintained.

It's an interesting point isn't it. Presumably someone then must have reported EV or is it possible that once someone is reported and their views are considered a bit dodgy do GNHQ follow their posts? Is it possible that a ban only results because of reporting? If so shouldn't people just stop reporting anyone?
I don't understand a ban at all and think if there is a process for banning then there should be a clear indication of how it is decided and what warnings have to be given. Like the three strikes and you are out rule.
I don't like the age idea because I suddenly realised EV is only 5 years older than me and I hope I don't have entrenched views.

Lovetopaint037 Mon 06-Dec-21 09:10:37

Hope we get an answer soon. Love to know what led to this strange situation.

J52 Mon 06-Dec-21 09:08:16

Visgir1

Parky

Can someone please enlighten me as to why ellanvannin has been banned and does she live on our lovely island? Thank you

Me too...
But if she seriously breached the T&C's did they have much option??
.

Me too……..
There are some ‘opinions’ that are illegal to voice on an open Internet forum.
I do think GNHQ should offer some enlightenment as this thread is such a long one requesting information.

Visgir1 Mon 06-Dec-21 08:57:12

Parky

Can someone please enlighten me as to why ellanvannin has been banned and does she live on our lovely island? Thank you

Me too...
But if she seriously breached the T&C's did they have much option??
.

BlueSapphire Mon 06-Dec-21 08:38:19

I too would like to see EV back.

love0c Mon 06-Dec-21 08:17:19

No idea what this is all about really? but what a long thread. Obviously this lady has a lot of support. I can not help but wonder if GNHQ only like your views if they are their own too???

Parky Mon 06-Dec-21 08:13:36

Can someone please enlighten me as to why ellanvannin has been banned and does she live on our lovely island? Thank you

Aldom Mon 06-Dec-21 07:46:07

nanna8

A thought occurred to me, does Ellan actually want to be reinstated? She might be peed off with the lot of us.

Urmstongran has spoken to EV. She does want to be allowed back. Hence the thread started by Urms. smile