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Please GNHQ ... would you consider letting *EllanVannin* come back to this site?

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Urmstongran Fri 03-Dec-21 15:34:03

This lady of 81y lives alone and GN was a great source of company for her. These long winter days are difficult for many to cope with at the best of times. I learned recently that she was given a lifetime ban. I feel very sad about this.

In the spirit of ? and goodwill to all, would you let her rejoin?

Anniebach Sat 04-Dec-21 09:01:18

May I too ask this ban is lifted, surely at this time when so many are isolated banning someone is cruel.

If posts are considered ‘not in the spirit’ delete the posts but please don’t push anyone into further isolation.

Marydoll Sat 04-Dec-21 09:22:31

Jackiest

I don't know how they can impose a lifetime ban. Just create a new user and make sure that gransnet can not recognise that it is the same computer.

Unfortunately, people who do that are usually spotted and outed, eventually.
Even creating a new email address hasn't worked for some.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Dec-21 09:29:12

I never knew that poster that is being talked about, as I tend to keep to the N&P threads with the occasional foray into other threads. I think as a consequence I never really get to “know” many posters. Tbh I don’t have the time, but it seems that this poster was liked.

However, I do think that the adjudication on GN is very often questionable, but it is not a job I would like, and would find it tedious in the extreme.

Let us hope that the person in question gets to post again, after all who does it harm?

trisher Sat 04-Dec-21 09:33:57

There are many people on GN I have disagreed with some of whom have personally attacked me I wouldn't want to see any of them banned. What on earth has someone done to receive such a sentence? At the very least GNHQ should be open and honest about what has gone on. Mind there are 7 pages here and no response so don't hold your breath!

25Avalon Sat 04-Dec-21 09:43:05

Couldn’t people rejoin with a probationary period? I’ve looked at some of EV’s posts and couldn’t see any reason why she was banned. Obviously GN have their reasons which we are not aware of. GN please reconsider and grant her parole.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 04-Dec-21 09:46:02

Here is a radical suggestion.

How about the users of GN compose their own rules? Perhaps then it would prevent the obscure decisions by the moderators.

Galaxy Sat 04-Dec-21 09:55:20

Are you mad? grin

hazel93 Sat 04-Dec-21 09:59:48

I am not a regular poster but do find this quite Draconian.

Kandinsky Sat 04-Dec-21 10:06:07

I don’t think I ever spoke to the poster concerned or know anything about her ‘posting style’ - but she’s clearly very well liked & missed, and the fact that she’s an elderly lady living alone I hope HQ let her back, even if it’s on some sort of ‘probationary’ period.

grannysyb Sat 04-Dec-21 10:08:15

Yes, let her come back. As someone said we are not children to be protected. I can't believe that she did anything wrong.

Calistemon Sat 04-Dec-21 10:12:47

If a post is offensive or against guidelines it can be deleted.

No need for a lifetime ban on an elderly person who lives alone, especially during these trying times.

dragonfly46 Sat 04-Dec-21 10:13:22

Yes I know of at least one case Josianne where a poster constantly reported people and got them banned. I think eventually she/he was banned themselves.

Calistemon Sat 04-Dec-21 10:14:08

Whitewavemark2

Here is a radical suggestion.

How about the users of GN compose their own rules? Perhaps then it would prevent the obscure decisions by the moderators.

As I said above, an offensive post can be deleted.

I've seen some threads which have had more holes than a colander.

MerylStreep Sat 04-Dec-21 10:17:00

grannysyb
She didn’t do anything wrong, she just had a different opinion on some subjects and thank god she had the strength of spirit to voice them.

Septimia Sat 04-Dec-21 10:20:11

You can add me to the list of people who want EV reinstated.

There are often posts with which I disagree - and posters who I know I'll disagree with - but I'm quite capable of ignoring them! Deleting posts is fair enough (although I always want to know what they said!) but a lifetime ban is depriving adults of freedom of speech. It's like this silly idea of trigger warnings or not letting controversial subjects be discussed in universities.

GrandmasueUK Sat 04-Dec-21 10:22:17

I used to look forward to reading EV's posts in the morning thread. I miss the crumpets and tales of her family, especially her great granddaughter. I would hope that this season is one of forgiveness and that Gransnet will allow her back again.

Gossamerbeynon1945 Sat 04-Dec-21 10:55:19

Please add my name too.

glammanana Sat 04-Dec-21 11:07:30

I am friends with EV and saw her as I was driving down the Road on Wednesday she looked fine all wrapped up warm making her way back to her flat.
Tomorrow I shall be calling on her with a Card for Christmas and to see if she has seen the posts here I know she will be humbled at the thoughts shown by so many people.

Greendress Sat 04-Dec-21 11:10:25

Please add my name to the list of people wishing for EV to be reinstated.

Antonia Sat 04-Dec-21 11:11:34

I too think that EllanVannin should be able to rejoin. Maybe her opinions were not considered politically correct (just an assumption, I really have no idea why she was banned), but she is old and used to post regularly, so evidently Gransnet was important to her.

Bibbity Sat 04-Dec-21 11:22:28

If anyone is in contact with her why not just get her to open another account?

Kamiso Sat 04-Dec-21 11:31:35

GrannySomerset

Has anyone else noticed one or two prolific posters who have not supported this request? Just wondering who reported EV.

Not sure that absence proves guilt! I rang 111 on Monday and then found myself in an ambulance on the way to hospital, where I was hooked up to a drip for four days.

All this banning is nonsensical and insulting to all members. Feels like a kangaroo court. If a post is likely to offend, let it stand so we can decide for ourselves. It’s easy enough to skip past anyone you find repetitive or irritating.

I am part way through a two week ban on Quora! No idea which of my posts caused offense so haven’t learned anything apart from the fact that some people get trigger happy if given a little bit of power.

I found the ban when I eventually made it to the hospital ward! At the time it made me laugh. I got irritated when seeing people calling others stupid f*****g wankers if they didn’t vote/think like the poster, still free to hurl foul mouthed abuse with no consequences.

When I had to write one hundred lines at school I knew that I shouldn’t have “jumped down the stairs”, “slid down the bannister” or “laughed with my friends”.

So easy to press report by mistake if your fingers stray. Surely the guilty party is entitled to know, at the very least, which post upset someone and who it was. Seems the administrators are judge, jury and executioner!

Perhaps it’s time to involve the media as GN don’t seem to be interested in responding?

I’ll say goodbye now as I’ll probably be joining EV on the naughty step or will be cast out into space to roam for evermore.

MerylStreep Sat 04-Dec-21 11:36:31

Bibbity
It’s not as simple as that. Gransnet tech is such rubbish that even if you got a new email address their computers might/ might not pick up that’s it’s the same IP address.

Maria59 Sat 04-Dec-21 11:36:48

I would love to see EllanVannin back on the forum. Her wisdom is a benefit to many

paddyann54 Sat 04-Dec-21 11:41:52

Another here who hasn't posted on the thread I assumed EV was having a break as many of us do .Has anyone been in touch with her to see if she wants to come back ? Some leave and never do return and thats their choice ,if it is a "lifetime ban" it seems unfair and if she wants to come back then in "the spirit of GN she should be allowed to .