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Please GNHQ ... would you consider letting *EllanVannin* come back to this site?

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Urmstongran Fri 03-Dec-21 15:34:03

This lady of 81y lives alone and GN was a great source of company for her. These long winter days are difficult for many to cope with at the best of times. I learned recently that she was given a lifetime ban. I feel very sad about this.

In the spirit of ? and goodwill to all, would you let her rejoin?

FannyCornforth Sat 04-Dec-21 02:47:10

I have just found the ‘^Gransnet Day of Direct Action^‘ thread in which EV’s lifetime ban was lengthily challenged.
It was the 5th September.
MichaelGN posted replies on page 5 of the thread.

NanKate Sat 04-Dec-21 04:08:15

There is an eerie silence from GN HQ ?

BlueBelle Sat 04-Dec-21 04:16:54

Most of any shenanigans go over my head I often don’t even connect a poster with a post after I ve read it I don’t think I know EV like you all do as I don’t go on the good morning thread etc and I certainly missed any previous shenanigans Again I ve no idea who the missing posters you all talk about are either I must live in a parallel universe HOWEVER I am totally against unfairness and this is unfair
So HQ my question is this are there different levels of lifetime bans why are some posters allowed back after lifetime bans and this poster is not ?

There has to be a level playing field and a Christmas amnesty seems a very good place to start
Forgiveness is a wonderful thing

BlueBelle Sat 04-Dec-21 04:16:54

Most of any shenanigans go over my head I often don’t even connect a poster with a post after I ve read it I don’t think I know EV like you all do as I don’t go on the good morning thread etc and I certainly missed any previous shenanigans Again I ve no idea who the missing posters you all talk about are either I must live in a parallel universe HOWEVER I am totally against unfairness and this is unfair
So HQ my question is this are there different levels of lifetime bans why are some posters allowed back after lifetime bans and this poster is not ?

There has to be a level playing field and a Christmas amnesty seems a very good place to start
Forgiveness is a wonderful thing

Elspeth45 Sat 04-Dec-21 04:17:56

On the other side of the world I miss her. I checked in every day to see what she had to say. I think I'm from the same part of the UK as EV so feel like a neighbour. Can't believe she has a lifetime ban, there are others who post on some threads who should be banned or certainly slapped on the legs. Some people are really quite rude.

BlueBelle Sat 04-Dec-21 04:25:51

Sorry this blooming site keeps posting twice even though I only pressed once

FarNorth Sat 04-Dec-21 04:36:44

NanKate

There is an eerie silence from GN HQ ?

I've had an email, in response to reporting my own post.
They say they're thinking about it and will get back to us.

BigBertha1 Sat 04-Dec-21 06:14:14

I'm with you Bluebell she should be given another chance.

seacliff Sat 04-Dec-21 06:47:20

I hope EG will be allowed back. It would a kind thing to do. People should be treated equally on GN and they evidently aren't. Others who had a lifetime ban have returned, some by stealth. Please can you respond? Thankyou.

NotAGran55 Sat 04-Dec-21 06:53:39

Totally agree although I don’t ‘know’ EV I’m all for second chances.
This is the Season of Goodwill after all.

Juliet27 Sat 04-Dec-21 06:57:24

EV and I have discussed our families living in the same town in Australia. It’s bad enough having family the other side of the world that you’ve been unable to see for years without being banned from sharing thoughts with fellow sufferers.

mumofmadboys Sat 04-Dec-21 07:10:21

I too support EV being reinstated please GNHQ

Maudi Sat 04-Dec-21 07:30:22

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Urmstongran Sat 04-Dec-21 07:46:37

FarNorth

NanKate

There is an eerie silence from GN HQ ?

I've had an email, in response to reporting my own post.
They say they're thinking about it and will get back to us.

Ooh - that sounds ‘hopeful’ FarNorth⁉️ Fingers (and toes) crossed today. Thank you for the update, really appreciated.
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cornergran Sat 04-Dec-21 08:09:24

A step forward farnorth, thank you sharing it with us. Lifetime bans are draconian, hopefully ellen will be back soon if she chooses to return.

Oopsadaisy1 Sat 04-Dec-21 08:19:32

I’ve reported my own post, hopefully that will encourage them to speed things up.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sat 04-Dec-21 08:21:40

I can’t remember reading any of E’s posts but banning someone for life sounds rather over the top.

MayBeMaw Sat 04-Dec-21 08:23:19

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Jackiest Sat 04-Dec-21 08:24:29

I don't know how they can impose a lifetime ban. Just create a new user and make sure that gransnet can not recognise that it is the same computer.

dragonfly46 Sat 04-Dec-21 08:31:03

Just seen this Urms well done for starting it.
I too wish to see Ellan back, she has been a good friend to me.
Hopefully those who were so quick to press the report button are long gone.

Please be generous HQ at this time of year. There is not one person on this post who does not wish to see Ellan back.

Lucca Sat 04-Dec-21 08:31:09

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Marydoll Sat 04-Dec-21 08:40:20

Im late to the party, being unable to post in the last few days
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When another, recently bereaved, poster was given a lifetime ban, I sent emails to GNHQ, stating that they had a duty of care, especially in the middle of a pandemic, to vulnerable, elderly posters, living on their own. I quoted their stock phrase, in the spirit of Gransnet, saying their action certainly wasn't and there was nasty manipulation going on by a few posters.

The repeated response I received was that they appreciated my concerns, what a good friend I was, blah, blah, blah, but reinstatement would set a precedent and it wouldn't happen.
To say I was raging, is an understatement.

I too miss EV, admiring her as a strong , loving grandparent and great grandparent, whose main goal in life was to support her family. We used to chat by PM and the characteristic I admired most, was that she was genuine and honest. Although I didn't always agree with her, I enjoyed her posts.
It's very hard to trust anonymous people on a site like this, it takes a long time to get to know them and to be able to trust, but she was a poster I felt was genuine.

As for reporting, resulting in a ban, I sometimes think GNHQ can be a little naive and they do not see that the real reason behind the reports is a deliberate desire to put the poster in a bad light. If a poster takes a dislike to you, you are powerless to change that, however the best way, IMO, is not to engage with them.

I always report spam, because I detest those who prey on the vulnerable, but I rarely report anything else. It needs to be pretty serious for me to do that. I prefer posters to see what has been said,

I really do hope that GN will reconsider. Even if they do so , it probably won't be easy, with a number of conditions imposed. However, if she wants back, EV will have to grin and bear it.

Marydoll Sat 04-Dec-21 08:42:01

Crossed posts Maw!

Josianne Sat 04-Dec-21 08:44:11

Hopefully those who were so quick to press the report button are long gone.
Do you mean they are removed or just skulk off leaving devastation like this dragonfly46? The latter is a sad thought that hadn't occurred to me. How cruel.

nanaK54 Sat 04-Dec-21 08:44:41

I am completely in the dark with regard to the reason for the lifetime ban imposed, I read far more than I post but would like to add my name to the list asking for the reinstatement of EV