Fighting fire with fire? Plan to make UK the world leader in AI.

Monica - You say "There was no discussion about how expansion in the industry is going to be financed, so that when AI companies want to make that jump from medium to big time, which with any company, usually requires a big injection of funds, how we will ensure that the funding is in the UK. As it is all he did was list foreign companies making big investments in this country.

Why are they doing this? They are doing this to make sure that they can ensure that all the developments in the AI industry made in this country are registered with foreign companies, who will export the profits and when the time is right move everything back to their home country and their, by then well trained home workers.

That sounds as though you believe that there will be a replanned deliberate attempt to make these things happen.

(I didn't take you for such a conspiracy theorist! )

As an optimist, and one who believes that Keir Starmer is genuinely trying to do the best he can for the UK, I think he will tbe taking steps to ensure that they don't. It is up to all those who fear the possibilty of us losing control of all the developlment that we will be working hard to achieve is NOT claimed by global organisations based elsewhere. This is still a democracy, despite efforts by some to change that.

Preplanned not replanned! Completely different meaning.

I’ve called the GP twice recently after speaking to reception, a call was booked and I spoke to a doctor, described the problem, he asked a few questions, in one case an online prescription, in the other a referral.

He was just going through a list of routine choices according to my symptoms, it could have been done by an AI computer, no doubt will be in the future

I called the booking system of a hotel chain to ask if the Soa supplied robes.

Twenty rephrased questions later the A1 system still could not understand my question although it had given me a lot of I nfirmation about the Spa and dressing requirements for the formal dinner.

Several requests to rate how helpful the system had been and a bunch of apologies that it couldn’t help.

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Elegran There is no conspiracy. It is common knowledge. American companies in particlular invest over here to make best use of our excellent technological skills - and take the intellectual knowledge and material back to the USA copyrighted and pateneted there.

Keir Starmer mentioned 7 companies in his speech. All are foreign owned or foreign financed..

Wayve is a UK company, but when they needed money it was Microsoft and Nvidia who investedthea £1 billion they neededwww.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgypzg4edvo Wayve are now, essentially foreign owned and run. Synthesia is a joint US/UK company, Blackstone is an American company. MistralAI is a French company with its HQ in Paris, OpenAI, , Anthropic and Scale are all US companies.

Not one of these companies is British owned and British financed. We are doing, yet again, what we have done throughout the electronic revolution. Developed the technology and then sold it on to foreign owned companies to exploit and make the money.

So nothing underhand or conspiratorial about aany of it. As I said Keir Starmer is talking tosh, he is talking the talk, but not walking the walk.

Lathyrus3

I called the booking system of a hotel chain to ask if the Soa supplied robes.

Twenty rephrased questions later the A1 system still could not understand my question although it had given me a lot of I nfirmation about the Spa and dressing requirements for the formal dinner.

Several requests to rate how helpful the system had been and a bunch of apologies that it couldn’t help.

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You didn’t fit in with the system, the system rules!.

“So nothing underhand or conspiratorial about aany of it. As I said Keir Starmer is talking tosh, he is talking the talk, but not walking the walk.”

I will agree with that until I see evidence that it is more than talk

David49

“So nothing underhand or conspiratorial about aany of it. As I said Keir Starmer is talking tosh, he is talking the talk, but not walking the walk.”

I will agree with that until I see evidence that it is more than talk

Same here.

I am still struggling to manage predictive writing and not let it say something I didn’t intend. Noticed Amazon use AI to collate reviews and give them a summary. It says AI on it and is quite good.

Amazon is, of course an American company as, no dubt is their AI software.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Best to encourage our grandchildren to become hairdressers, musicians, yoga teachers and plumbers.

I’ve been telling them that for a couple of years. 😂

Whitewavemark2

Starmer has given some good speeches lately.

The was a good AI report reporting on the pay difference between Keir Starmer and Sue Gray which pointed out she was on 175000lbs while he was only on 145000lbs. It's frightening how Labour jumps on these white elephant bandwagons.

If it's as safe as suggested it could be fine but do we really trust any govt. to ensure this? Just think of the chaos and obfuscation resulting from the Horizon computer cover up and this would be open to much more widespread abuse. I think it's being used as a distraction from the current economic problems and I'd rather they sorted out the NHS, education and immigration.

orly

Whitewavemark2

Starmer has given some good speeches lately.

The was a good AI report reporting on the pay difference between Keir Starmer and Sue Gray which pointed out she was on 175000lbs while he was only on 145000lbs. It's frightening how Labour jumps on these white elephant bandwagons.

😄 blimey

I don’t know why everyone is wasting their breath.

It is happening world wide, whether you like it or not.

petra

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Best to encourage our grandchildren to become hairdressers, musicians, yoga teachers and plumbers.

I’ve been telling them that for a couple of years. 😂

I don’t advise my GC, they have been indoctrinated at school that university is the only way I’m not going to waste my breath
2 that have done career based college are successful, 3 that have been to Uni have failed 2 given up 1 still trying

Whitewavemark2

I don’t know why everyone is wasting their breath.

It is happening world wide, whether you like it or not.

I do not think anyone is arguing against AI, just about whether Keir Starmer's speech was anything but hot air about Britain being a world leader etc etc.

As I pointed out every company he mentioned was foreign owned or had major foreign investors. If we want to lead the field we need it to be led by Britsh companies funded by British finance. But like everything else in the computer world since the 1960s. We do the development and then other nationalities fund it and sweep up all the profits and that seems to be exactly what is happening with AI if Starmer's speech is to be believed.

We have a shortage of AI experts in this country and of course we don’t want to be left behind.

I find AI interesting and pretty mind blowing.

Monica third largest AI hub globally is a fact, I’m sure it’s easy to find on the net, and under current government they’re planning AI centres to be built in deprived areas ie not London for a start, which will spread jobs out across the country. I mean we’re living through the equivalent of the last Industrial Revolution- it’s a messy time but but you’ve got to be in it to win it I guess

AI can do lots of things. But where is the regulation? Is there any? Considering that a lot will be used in the NHS this lack must be put right soon and before we become reliant on systems which are not documented, tested properly, or monitored.

Monica here’s a screen grab of countries ranked by AI infrastructure and leadership in the field

I can’t help reading AI as Artificial Insemination . I was brought up on a farm🥴. Very worried when the NHS was mentioned

NotSpaghetti

My son has a tiny company and uses it.
Doesn't make it good but he says it's useful.

I'm most excited about the medical uses.

The medical uses do sound significant.

M0nica

Whitewavemark2

I don’t know why everyone is wasting their breath.

It is happening world wide, whether you like it or not.

I do not think anyone is arguing against AI, just about whether Keir Starmer's speech was anything but hot air about Britain being a world leader etc etc.

As I pointed out every company he mentioned was foreign owned or had major foreign investors. If we want to lead the field we need it to be led by Britsh companies funded by British finance. But like everything else in the computer world since the 1960s. We do the development and then other nationalities fund it and sweep up all the profits and that seems to be exactly what is happening with AI if Starmer's speech is to be believed.

Being 3rd in the world doesn't seem too shabby. I guess it would be hard to get ahead of China and US so 3rd is no disgrace.

My grandson’s best friend (they live in France) has just spent 6 months in Australia working for a company working with AI in the medical/surgical field. A company that is a ‘world leader’ apparently!
He is 23! Whether we like it or agree with it, it appears to be the future!