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ExDancer Sat 11-Sept-21 18:49:23

Why hasn't that girl (who's name escapes me) defended by Imran over Seb's murder, been given legal aid?

She's legally in foster care so surely entitled to it?

BlueBelle Sat 11-Sept-21 18:54:49

Kelly s her name
I can’t imagine how Imran (who s her foster father) can represent her or am I wrong on that
I ve only just caught up with this week abd think Abi played a blinder again

maddyone Sat 11-Sept-21 19:14:21

I think lots of things in the trial are not true to life. Imran is a solicitor and perfectly entitled to defend Kelly, but as a solicitor he is not perfectly entitled to wear the gown and wig he’s been wearing. Those are for barristers only. Imran would have engaged and briefed a criminal barrister to defend Kelly, that is what normally happens with high profile cases such as murder or rape.

maddyone Sat 11-Sept-21 19:15:40

I’m absolutely sure it was not in Kelly’s best interest to have her foster parent defend her. Not strictly illegal I don’t think, but certainly undesirable.

Aveline Sat 11-Sept-21 19:53:28

Is he not a solicitor advocate? The poor man couldn't have tried harder.
Goodness knows what Abbie will do. That Corey better look out!

JaneJudge Sat 11-Sept-21 19:57:44

There would have been a 'best interests' meeting with her social worker, I agree maddyone grin

theworriedwell Sat 11-Sept-21 19:59:12

Yes Aveline he is a solicitor advocate so perfectly reasonable for him to represent her in court.

maddyone Sat 11-Sept-21 23:23:42

Yes, it is quite normal for solicitors to defend in court, but especially in high profile cases such as a murder trial, it would be normal to instruct a barrister. My son is a barrister, not criminal law though, and is instructed by solicitors for the cases he does. No one goes directly to a barrister, their solicitor will instruct a barrister if it is desirable. In murder cases this would be desirable.

maddyone Sat 11-Sept-21 23:32:46

Barristers can be distinguished from solicitors in court because they wear a gown and wig. They work at higher levels of court than solicitors. Their main role is to act as advocates in legal hearings. They stand in court and plead the case of their clients in front of a judge.

Taken from: brightknowledge.org. (what is the difference between barristers and solicitors)

Having said that, barristers do not always wear a gown and wig in court, although I think in criminal trials they do. Gown and wig must be worn by barristers in The Royal Courts of Justice. They cannot be worn in the street, and should be put on once inside the building. Gowns and wigs are not worn in the Family Court, by barristers or judges.

Sarnia Sun 12-Sept-21 16:25:42

I have wondered about a few things in this case. Why were the other 2 boys not appearing in court at the same time as Kelly and Corey? Only Eli gave evidence at the trial. As Kelly's foster father, isn't it a conflict of interest to represent her? Can it be termed a murder when there was no planned intent to kill Seb? I thought that was manslaughter. Should Imran and his ex-wife have been so close given they are on opposite sides? I daresay this isn't the end of it. Perhaps Corey's bag of bloodied clothes may be found to provide hard evidence against him or his father's dealings with witnesses may blow up in his face.

Aveline Sun 12-Sept-21 16:29:55

We very haven't heard the end of it. In soaps people usually get their just reward. I hope, for her sake,that Abbie doesn't try to bump off Corey.

Calendargirl Sun 12-Sept-21 17:25:36

It’s Corrie, Justice Will Prevail (eventually).

Namsnanny Sun 12-Sept-21 18:20:16

Did Imran leave with his ex wife in the taxi?
Dum di dum...cliff hanger till the next episode, I suppose.

humptydumpty Sun 12-Sept-21 18:54:04

What seemed the biggest omission to me was - Nina's testimony was rubbished on the basis of the delay in remebering, surely that's common after a head injury, there should have been someone testifying to that effect.

theworriedwell Sun 12-Sept-21 20:30:52

Sarnia

I have wondered about a few things in this case. Why were the other 2 boys not appearing in court at the same time as Kelly and Corey? Only Eli gave evidence at the trial. As Kelly's foster father, isn't it a conflict of interest to represent her? Can it be termed a murder when there was no planned intent to kill Seb? I thought that was manslaughter. Should Imran and his ex-wife have been so close given they are on opposite sides? I daresay this isn't the end of it. Perhaps Corey's bag of bloodied clothes may be found to provide hard evidence against him or his father's dealings with witnesses may blow up in his face.

I think the other two boys weren't accused of the murder, they had been tried separately for the attack on Nina.

Sarnia Sun 12-Sept-21 20:44:41

theworriedwell

Sarnia

I have wondered about a few things in this case. Why were the other 2 boys not appearing in court at the same time as Kelly and Corey? Only Eli gave evidence at the trial. As Kelly's foster father, isn't it a conflict of interest to represent her? Can it be termed a murder when there was no planned intent to kill Seb? I thought that was manslaughter. Should Imran and his ex-wife have been so close given they are on opposite sides? I daresay this isn't the end of it. Perhaps Corey's bag of bloodied clothes may be found to provide hard evidence against him or his father's dealings with witnesses may blow up in his face.

I think the other two boys weren't accused of the murder, they had been tried separately for the attack on Nina.

Thanks for that. I thought it strange they weren't in court alongside Kelly and Corey considering the kicking they gave Nina.

Calendargirl Mon 13-Sept-21 07:09:23

Namsnanny

Did Imran leave with his ex wife in the taxi?
Dum di dum...cliff hanger till the next episode, I suppose.

Have read a preview of tonight’s episode,

Imran returns home in yesterday’s clothes

shock

henetha Mon 13-Sept-21 10:59:39

Hasn't there been some brilliant acting throughout this storyline. Nina, Abby, Kelly, etc., all excellent.

sodapop Mon 13-Sept-21 12:10:05

Yes I agree Henetha some really tear jerking moments.

Are we hearing about the death of Norris this week ?

Franbern Mon 13-Sept-21 14:40:45

Was wondering about a Solicitor acting as a Barrister is such a high profile trial. Also, at the murder charge - surely sh ould have been manslaughter!!

Well, I suppose Kelly will be sentenced -a t 16 yrs that means a Juveline Detention Centre, but - undoubtedly -given Corries lack of many sets, will be in the only prison (the very local one), that all residents of the Cobbles get sent to. We could, of course, re-start the updated verson of the RELEASE THE WETHERSFIELD ONE.

However, I must say that I think the acting of those very young actors portraying both Kelly and Corey has been very excellent. They put many of the more mature and experienced actors to shame. Would have liked to see both of them getting an award at the Soaps.

theworriedwell Mon 13-Sept-21 15:14:16

I think the charge was murder due to the intent, the kicking he took showed an intent to do serious damage so not like a fight where no one intends to cause GBH or kill but it happens.

Aveline Mon 13-Sept-21 15:40:11

No money to hire a posh barrister so it's all down to Imran. Wonder if he'll find some key info from Sabeen's place. If not, poor Toyah.

Aveline Mon 13-Sept-21 20:55:44

Well poor Kelly may have attempted suicide but, luckily, managed to affix her false eyelashes first.

Calendargirl Mon 13-Sept-21 21:52:36

Aveline

Well poor Kelly may have attempted suicide but, luckily, managed to affix her false eyelashes first.

Obviously a priority.

I thought the Norris Cole tribute was lovely. Barbara Knox looked very tearful as she said her farewells, must be sad for the older actors to see others either die or retire. Think Thelma Barlow (Mavis) is 90 now.

NotTooOld Mon 13-Sept-21 21:55:07

I noticed that, Aveline!