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escaped Sun 02-Feb-25 15:04:37

A drama about Jane Austen's sister Cassandra, and their bond.
Tonight,
Miss Austen
9.05pm, BBC One

Casdon Tue 18-Feb-25 15:51:08

It is based around actual letters and accounts though Monica, though although it’s fiction there is some foundation in truth. The book is well written.

M0nica Tue 18-Feb-25 17:39:14

Casdon

It is based around actual letters and accounts though Monica, though although it’s fiction there is some foundation in truth. The book is well written.

Yes, I realise that, but fictionalised versions of people's liives are less accurate than a good biography. and then the tv dramatists add their bit.

merlotgran Tue 18-Feb-25 17:46:19

fictionalised versions of people's liives are less accurate than a good biography. and then the tv dramatists add their bit

Thereby creating successful ratings for Sunday night entertainment .

escaped Tue 18-Feb-25 17:48:57

Jane was against marrying as a means to material security. She didn't want a husband just to secure her future, because she could earn an income from her writing. She wanted to marry for love.
We know this from her letters where she said, "Anything is to be preferred or endured rather than marrying without affection."

SueDonim Tue 18-Feb-25 18:49:41

I watched the first two episodes of this last night. I’m glad I’m not alone in being baffled as to exactly who’s who! It was easy watching, relaxing to view before bedtime.

Was JA left-handed, as shown in the series? I couldn’t find anything to confirm it one way or another online.

M0nica Tue 18-Feb-25 19:55:05

escaped

Jane was against marrying as a means to material security. She didn't want a husband just to secure her future, because she could earn an income from her writing. She wanted to marry for love.
We know this from her letters where she said, "Anything is to be preferred or endured rather than marrying without affection."

Jane Austen came from a big family with a many brothers, one of them very wealthy, she had the luxury of choice, her brothers were contributing money and providing housing for the three ladies, Jane, her sister and mother, from the time her father died and would for the rest of their lives.

Many women did not have this luxury. Take a lady like Miss Bates in Emma, she has no wealthy brothers, no father with money to leave. She is already living in genteel poverty as it is, Her mother probably has a small annuity to provide for them, while she is alive. Once her mother dies that annuity will end, Miss Bates will then be close to destitute. One can see why in those circumstances a loveless marriage is preferable to the workhouse.

Oreo Tue 18-Feb-25 20:04:46

A loveless marriage is still popular today! As long as the man’s wallet is fat enough for some.

Oreo Tue 18-Feb-25 20:30:35

Have always wanted to say, to a proposal of marriage, ‘Why sir! This is so sudden!’
My ex proposed in the car, no going down on one knee and said ‘you want to get engaged?’ Biting back the urge to say ‘oh yeah!but who to?’ I just grinned like an idiot and said yes.

Oreo Tue 18-Feb-25 20:31:46

….and as you can see by my use of the word ex, dear reader, that went well😖

escaped Wed 19-Feb-25 14:30:47

Exactly, that's the enigma that was Jane.
Exploring love, happiness, regret and lost chances in life by creating unforgettable characters who grapple with these very emotions.

escaped Sat 22-Feb-25 09:22:07

Has anyone visited the Jane Austen museum in Bath? Is it any good? I'm thinking maybe a day out next month.

Casdon Sat 22-Feb-25 09:53:03

Yes, I went last October. It’s quite small, they do have some interesting items, and the guide was excellent - but I’d been to the Roman Baths in the morning, so I was a bit underwhelmed by the Jane Austen museum, in my very unfair comparison.

Witzend Sat 22-Feb-25 10:05:04

escaped

The famous Mary Anning was collecting fossils in Lyme Regis at the beginning of the 19th century.

We’ve visited Lyme several times, so have read a lot about Mary Anning. At the time of her first discoveries, when the Bible story of creation was first being questioned, it was said by some disbelieving old local that the fossils had been put there by the Devil, ‘to maze men’s minds.’ 😂

Though of course such notions were not confined to uneducated old locals.

escaped Sat 22-Feb-25 14:59:03

Thank you Casdon, I'll try to find something else to fill the day alongside the JA museum. I've already "done" the Roman Baths, and the Abbey when DH sings there.

specki4eyes Tue 25-Feb-25 13:16:40

Spoiler alert.
Explanation please...why did Isabella Fowle reject the advances of Mr Lidderdale (until the end)? Was that a red herring/filler? I'm reading the book but can find no explanation.

nightowl Tue 25-Feb-25 13:53:30

I visited the Jane Austen museum in January escaped. I’d resisted visiting in the past - I didn’t expect much for some reason, but I really enjoyed it. There are some interesting film presentations and the guides are very knowledgeable and engaging. We also had ‘Lady Catherine’s tea’ on the top floor - very good scones!

There’s a waxwork of Jane created with the help of eyewitness accounts and a ‘forensic artist’ - who knows if it’s a good likeness but I really liked her face. She looked kind, but fun.

Sara1954 Tue 25-Feb-25 14:11:42

I found myself losing concentration, I paused it to pop out to the loo, and didn’t put it back on, may have another try tonight.

escaped Tue 25-Feb-25 14:31:25

specki4eyes

Spoiler alert.
Explanation please...why did Isabella Fowle reject the advances of Mr Lidderdale (until the end)? Was that a red herring/filler? I'm reading the book but can find no explanation.

Wasn't it because her father had deemed him unsuitable? I think because his mother had been a servant? The sister said something like Isabella would bring shame on the family if she married him, but once the father had died it was ok for her to proceed.

escaped Tue 25-Feb-25 14:32:35

Thank you, nightowl. Tea sounds a good idea!

specki4eyes Wed 26-Feb-25 18:12:07

Thank you escaped. I missed the first two episodes..thought I was recording them, but wasn't! So I bought the book for my Kindle but still couldn't find a reference.
Changing the issue, I was very impressed with Max Irons...as Mr Hobday. He has inherited his father's acting skill.