AIBU to be fed up with some posters who cannot accept others have different opinions?

Oh dear I m so dim I didn’t know this was going into a left right post I didn’t read enough into it or even recognise the poster s former views so I just answered about general lack of kindness and listening and allowing in the world and on here sometimes I really didn’t even realise this was going to have a political background to it
Silly old sausage I am

I have not ( yet) been insulted on Gransnet but I have often been ignored. I guess that is preferable.
A pity there is not a Like or a Thanks button, so we can like and move on.
Pity people can’t also dislike or disagree and move on without being rude or insulting.

It’s a very left/ right issue Blue. The right in general whinge about the meanie lefties whilst being just as bad and playing the wide eyed innocent victim.

No Bluebelle you're not!

Pity people don’t think facts matter

This is the usual "Ooh they're being nasty to me on a political thread so I'll come and cry and get people to support me" Basically aprilrose If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. I don't see why I should have to agree with anyone who posts ideas and opinions I find absolutely repulsive.
I agree with suziewoozie there are threads when people really need support and help and this isn't one of them.

No one is suggesting you have to agree with anyone who posts ideas and opinion you find repulsive. By replying with insults you merely weaken your own argument as the insult is the only thing people remember.

Telling someone "if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen" is surely stopping debate. If they "stayed in the kitchen" and each side put their point of view in a considered manner - that would be debate.

It’s not an insult Old if you dish it out, as april does, you have to take it.

We are living in a society where many people are frightened to admit they hold certain opinions.

I'm not talking racist/sexist/homophobic here

Just an admission to voting for Brexit or for the Conservatives can invite vile and vitriolic responses

So many people stay silent

Which isn't good

Even artists are at it

www.artsprofessional.co.uk/news/exclusive-culture-censorship-arts-workers-fear-backlash

suzie wouldn't it be better to take the high road and reply in a considered manner?

There are certain people that , as many others have said, only can hear their own opinion and believe that other people that don't agree are either stupid or should just be ignored, which also, for some reason seems to lead them also to believe that they can say exactly what they think, however nasty and hurtful it is!
We have turned into a faceless society and in general, have fallen into the trap of thinking that it's ok to remove the filter and tap out just what words are popping into your brain at that moment!
I often wonder if these same people would go up to a complete stranger in the street and say what they have just typed - if they did, they would hopefully either end up in court with a threatening or abusive behaviour, likely to cause harm, or be treated as having a mental health problem (wait for the return on that one)
I'd just like people to accept that we don't all think the same way - just because you believe one thing, doesn't mean that every one else has to think the same, and slap the filter between brain and fingers on tight!!!

Threads like this get nowhere, as everyone is talking at cross purposes, and continues to think that comments are about other people, or about them, depending on what the comments are.

I always feel guilty (upbringing) in the way I did at school when we were told that ‘someone’ had done something, even when I knew I hadn’t, or hadn’t intended to. My friend always shrugged and assumed the Head was referring to someone else, so oblique references to bad behaviour (or ‘the sins that would surely catch us out’ as the Head would have it) really don’t help.

There is obviously an agenda here, and I assume that it is the ‘facts’ thread, which has an agenda of its own, but things may have moved on since last night.

To answer the question with no agenda - I don’t see disagreement as wrong, or being nasty. There is no point in discussion threads if the rules are that we have to agree, and forums like this would die on their feet if everyone bit their tongue all the time.

I prefer polite discussion to either rudeness or passive aggressive insinuation, which are, IMO, equally unpleasant and stifle debate.

Oh, and reducing everything to ‘left’ and ‘right’ is facile. It is not as simple as that, and IMO the terms are often used in completely the wrong way on here.

'Opinion' is not the same as facts. If someone's 'opinion' is based on erroneous 'facts' - then it is appropriate to challenge.

I’ve just dipped into this thread, have read a lot of the posts but not all.
My opinion is that whilst I have disagreed with other posters at times on political or news threads, I have received kind support from those same posters when on other threads. Isn’t that how it should be? There are probably some who don’t offer any support to others, and some who only enjoy robust discussions on political and news threads, and yet more who stick to the everyday type of discussions. We’re all different and we all have different views. It’s fine to disagree with someone and then agree with the same person on another thread.
I have seen unacceptable comments on threads, and rudeness on threads, best to scroll on by.

I have very strong views but I usually bite my tongue on here as so often I have seen threads descend into very unpleasant vitriol.
My especial bug bear is when someone asks for help, laying their private problems bare, only to receive nasty insults or judgemental comments! If I can’t think of something to say that might help or offer constructive practical advice and I am annoyed by the OP in some way I just don’t comment!

I don't think aprilrose is afraid to express her opinions I think she just wants us all to agree with her, even when she has posted something inaccurate. Anyone is free to post what they want. If their conscience is then pricked by some of the responses that isn't the fault of other posters.

I wonder how much of this would be said if we were all sitting round the table together.

The analogy with going up to a stranger in the street is totally fallacious

'Opinion' is not the same as facts. If someone's 'opinion' is based on erroneous 'facts' - then it is appropriate to challenge.

This is very true; but it is often also true that what constitutes a fact is open to debate. There are those who would argue that Evolution is not a fact, because they believe in Creationism. Most would disagree, but those on differing sides of the argument would draw on different sources to back them up.

The current mistrust of experts has a lot to answer for, IMO. Some opinions are worth more than others.

Also, access to Google (other search engines are available!) means that people often think 'case proven' when they find something to back them up. 'It says here that . . .' doesn't (or shouldn't) settle an argument, but is is so often used to do so.

Doodle the fact that april got wrong was not open to interpretation or an alternative theory. And when I check facts, I triangulate . Along with some other posters, I understand the difference quite clearly - it’s a pity some others don’t

Case of the kettle looking for support? ?

At face value, and as I do not have the slightest idea what suziewoozie and some others are referring to, I cannot see much to disagree with, however if it is a “thread about a thread” GNHQ will no doubt put their and to one side and act accordingly.

Doodle the fact that april got wrong was not open to interpretation or an alternative theory.

Maybe so, but unless what it ist is stated, as opposed to alluded to, how are the rest of us supposed to comment? This is a bit of an 'in with the in crowd' thread, isn't it?

This is a fact

''The UKs nuclear weapons are about to be replaced with US made next gen W93 nuclear warheads.

How do we know this? Because US Head of Strategic Command told the US Senate about the contract....

Before the UK MOD told Parliament or anyone else in the UK!

US elected officials get to know this sort of stuff before UK elected representatives.''

and you can have an 'opinion' about it. I think you can guess what my 'opinion' on the subject is.