a man’s internal feeling that he is a woman has no basis in material reality?

In case they were missed, here are a few I "made earlier". But google cotton ceiling yourself. Type "detransition" into youtube for yourself etc. I'm not asking anyone to take my word for it

www.objectnow.org/news/2019/4/28/lesbians-dont-have-penises

www.transgendertrend.com/letter-to-young-trans-people/

mirandayardley.com/en/when-a-transsexual-is-prosecuted-for-transgender-hate-crime/

www.transgendertrend.com/lesbian-detransitioner-must-question-primary-solution/

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6897269/Workers-transgender-clinic-quit-concerns-unregulated-live-experiments-children.html

"Five whistleblowing workers at the only NHS transgender clinic in Britain have quit over fears children as young as three are going through unnecessary gender reassignment treatment.

The clinicians from the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) clinic based in London and Leeds left over concerns children were being incorrectly diagnosed with gender dysphoria.

It was feared some gay children struggling with their sexual identity are being incorrectly diagnosed as transgender.

Specialists also worried that some of the youngsters were being referred and pressured into having gender change treatment after suffering homophobic bullying.

All five former staff members were part of the team deciding if youngsters should be given hormone blockers to stop their development before puberty, according to the Times.

Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) clinic in London. Five workers quit over concerns about the number of children being given gender change treatment+4
Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) clinic in London. Five workers quit over concerns about the number of children being given gender change treatment
The patients then take a course of cross-sex hormones at the age of 16 depending on whether they want to develop as male or female.

At least 18 staff have reportedly quit the controversial clinic over the past three years, citing fears not enough checks are being done to correctly diagnose child patients.

One of the five whistleblowers even said the only reason many stayed in their post was to prevent more children from having the treatment. Referrals to the clinic risen in recent years, with 94 in 2010, rising to 2,519 by last year, with the youngest patient aged just three.

One of the clinicians told The Times: 'I felt for the last two years what kept me in the job was the sense there was a huge number of children in danger.

'I was there to protect children from being damaged.'

Experts fear the treatments are being given without exploring the underlying reason for the children's confusion over their sexuality.

The Tavistock Gender Identity Development Clinic in north London has an 'inability to stand up to pressure' from campaigners and parents demanding fast-track transitions, its own clinicians have said in February+4
The Tavistock Gender Identity Development Clinic in north London has an 'inability to stand up to pressure' from campaigners and parents demanding fast-track transitions, its own clinicians have said in February
An Oxford professor said the treatments were 'unregulated live experiments on children' with some diagnosis not supported by any evidence.

Carl Heneghan, director of the Centre of Evidence-based Medicine at Oxford University, told The Times: 'Given paucity of evidence, the off-label use of drugs [for outcomes not covered by the medicine's licence] in gender dysphoria treatment largely means an unregulated live experiment on children.'

GIDS, which is part of the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust, denied these claims and insisted careful diagnoses were made in these complex cases.

A spokesman told the Times: 'It is only in recent years that the number of young people attending specialist services worldwide has dramatically increased.

'Prior to this the numbers have been small and it has therefore been difficult to collect sufficient evidence to fully evaluate treatment pathways."

notanan - I've read your links and found the one pertaining to the predatory transwoman very disturbing, particularly the way that person appears to fetishisize women, their periods and how deeply worrying that is when it pertains to pubescent girls who he wants to be in a communal loo with. I know I'd be confident and old enough to fight my corner but I'd hate my young granddaughter, or indeed any young girl to be put into such an awkward scenario. Whilst I appreciate that the majority of trans women won't be of this ilk, nevertheless this person displays dangerous behaviour to women and particularly children. This is the growing disquiet, I and many others are feeling.

I still can't get my head round why a trans woman with male genitalia would ask a beautician, who makes it clear she does "Brazilian" waxes, on well I can't say a real women anymore, but natal women only, and then try and sue them if they refuse, surely that's their prerogative in what I would regard a free country Canada

I would really like to understand what a "lady dick" is but I can't sorry, it's too contradictory, and did I read it right they alluded in one of the threads to their "heavy period" how come,???? what orifice would the period come out of and where would that person insert their tampon sorry to be blunt but is it incumbent on all of us to acknowledge biological untruths now?

not he "they" apologies

I still can't get my head round why a trans woman with male genitalia would ask a beautician

They didnt ask A beautician... they targeted many female beauticians who offered ladies only intimate waxing services

Lady dick: there are helpful tutorials online telling lesbians how to suck dick whilst pretending it's not a dick so as not to "trigger" the dick owners dysphoria. Some from relatively mainstream advice sources

Oh trans periods are real apparently. The only thing missing is blood.

So cool that these transwomen get to tell us how wrong we were all along about what a period is and how it feels. Progress & inclusion kidz!!

notanan2 you have obviously spent a lot of time reading about this issue. Do you have personal experience of being transgender or having a transgender person amongst your family or friends?

Oh but if a lesbian is "triggered" by the idea of sucking dick. That's not cool, or inclusive, apparently.....

I have personal experience of being a woman, varian. And don't appreciate men telling women that they know better about the experience of being a women than women do!

Most of us GNetters are women. Some of us do know trans people but just accept them. Why do you suppose you have become so wound up about this?

If self ID just affected transwomen, they could crack on with it varian. Those beauticians werent trans buy self ID sure as is affecting them. Did you read the words linked above of the person who used self ID to target them Varian? If so how can you think that women arent qualified to be concerned about people like that?

Being accepting of transpeople is not actually mutually exclusive with being gender critical or anti self ID, now why do you assume it is Varian?

Everybody, male or female, or whatever, can comment on these issues, but I can't help wondering why someone not personally affected could possibly get so agitated about them. I know this may be a hot topic in certain popular newspapers, but most readers would just move on.

The very people who have chosen careers in trans support services are concerned with recent developments in trans ideology Varian. Transpeople are campaigning against self ID. Explain that Varian if you think that being gender critical cannot = supporting non conforming individuals!

I AM personally affected by self ID. It re-defines women!!

I am a woman and I don't feel redefined.

It errodes progress in sex descrimination and gender sterootypes.

On a scale of how self ID affects me and my daughters personally, I would say less than Climate change and more than Brexit.

I am a woman and I don't feel redefined.

Its not about a feeling. Thats kind of the point.

Its about the practical implications...

Female only intimate waxing services were sure redefined for those beauticians, some of whom solo worked or worked from their own homes.

Female prisoners who have a right to be in female only prisons are being redefined..

I would imagine trans women are not a homogeneous group of people just like any other demographic, and the vast majority are reasonable people. The comments are specific to the extreme end of the spectrum and in this case one individual, you really need to read the link Varian.

I would imagine trans women are not a homogeneous group of people

Yes!
And as such, being anti self ID, anti mermaids, anti trans activists does not = being anti trans

Not least because people from the LGBT community are also anti self-ID, anti mermaids, anti trans activists etc...

Many individuals will have many and varied experiences, and if we do a lot of googling we can find them for sure,
but it is interesting to know why some who do not have first hand knowledge of any of these cases seem to become obsessed with the issue.

Saying that you cant change biological sex is not "anti trans". Many trans identifying people agree.

Saying that being a transwoman is not the same experience as being a natal woman is not anti trans.

Once again, I have first hand experience of being a woman. It is not what transactivists describe as what makes a "real woman". I do not wished to be re-categorised by how much I "express gender"

Maya Forstater did not need to have experience of being a transwoman for self ID trans ideology to affect her life directly.

Women arent allowed to accurately describe their own biology. It affects us!