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Good news for those living alone.....but

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Kate54 Wed 10-Jun-20 18:23:31

Great news from BJ this afternoon for people living alone - they can join another household, stay overnight, no need for social distancing, Unless they’re shielding - maybe some news for those people next week.
Can’t help wondering, though..... I can visit one person in his or her house. But I can’t visit my completely empty holiday home.
BJ did say there were still plenty of ‘anomalies’. Too right.

Kate54 Wed 10-Jun-20 21:48:08

This is from the BBC news website and seems quite clear:

‘What is a support bubble?
From this Saturday in England, single adults living alone - or single parents with children under 18 - can form a "support bubble" with one other household. The second household can be of any size but the measure does not include anyone who is shielding.
Everyone in a support bubble will be able to act as if they live in the same household and spend time together in each other's homes, and not stay 2m (6ft) apart. They will be able to stay overnight.
The bubble must be exclusive and you cannot switch households. If anyone in the bubble has coronavirus symptoms then everyone in both households will have to self-isolate.’

Now, people have just got to work out how to get there...

AllotmentLil Wed 10-Jun-20 22:13:17

So glad I’m in Scotland!!

BlueBelle Wed 10-Jun-20 22:15:16

What if the people in the family work or go to school it doesn’t mention that does it ?

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jun-20 22:17:41

It's just the same risk as there would be in one large family, I suppose?

What about getting to and from your bubble mates'?

vegansrock Wed 10-Jun-20 22:24:22

My youngest GC loves bubbles we bought a machine from amazon which blows loads of them around. I wouldn’t worry folks, since Dom Cummings people have been breaking the rules all over.

skunkhair63 Wed 10-Jun-20 22:29:16

Hetty58

It's a trap, clearly. Parents wanted back at work, schools unable to look after the kids - suddenly, there's concern for 'lonely' people. So (like lambs to the slaughter) it's grannies to the rescue. They really must believe that we're all fools!

Glad it's not just me who thought this. And I would guess it's mostly aimed at Lonely Old People... the ones who don't live in Care Homes...!

ginny Wed 10-Jun-20 22:29:40

If someone works or goes to school they carry on doing that. I’m not sure why that makes any difference?

misty34 Wed 10-Jun-20 22:32:24

That's right Kate 1949 each single person, with or without children under 18 can choose one bubble only and once chosen this can't be changed or swapped about. So choose wisely Lol

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jun-20 22:32:31

They'll risk passing the virus to another family as well as their own.

dragonfly46 Wed 10-Jun-20 22:34:43

Feeling a little envious as my DGC’s other Granny will be hotfoot down to see them. We can’t as we are a couple and we are shielding.

Luckygirl Wed 10-Jun-20 22:35:28

It is difficult to decide what is behind this - it clearly risks these lonely grandparents living on their own catching coronavirus from their families.

My DD rang about this today and again invited me to stay with them and be in their bubble. She knows that it is very lonely me for me as I am still trying to adjust to my OH's death in February. It is very tempting in some ways; but I would be at far greater risk of catching the virus, as they go out to the shops and one child is in school.

Whilst the weather is reasonable and I can chat to all my DDs out in their gardens I think I will stay put. The science tells me that there is no less risk of catching the virus today than there was 2 or more weeks ago, and the change has nothing to do with lower risk. I see no point in putting myself at further risk when I am just coping still. I have no wish to get the virus.

But it is helpful psychologically to know that the option is there and within the rules, should I choose to do this.

There is very little logic to this change in the rules.

skunkhair63 Wed 10-Jun-20 22:35:45

MissAdventure

I've obviously got the wrong end of the stick, and I was really concentrating, too. blush

Glad I recorded it - we had to play it back!

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jun-20 22:37:40

I'm relieved to hear that.
I blame Boris, he does waffle. smile

ginny Wed 10-Jun-20 22:42:05

Not every person living on their own has family with young children. Thousands now have the chance to at least see one part of their family or one lot of friends after weeks on their own.
It is their choice wether they feel the risk is worth it.

skunkhair63 Wed 10-Jun-20 22:44:23

This got my DMiL's hopes up, and then we had to "burst her bubble". Poor love has been managing alone in her home, aged 90, since we "locked her down" 2 weeks before Boris suggested it! We had to explain that as her son is a Key Worker, unfortunately we can't risk it. She now agrees we should carry on with twice-daily phone calls, and distancing-from-the-garden visits every few days. I can't tell you how relieved we are that she isn't in a Care Home!

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jun-20 22:46:12

The cynical being on my shoulder is whispering to me about someone dying on their own and going unnoticed during lockdown...
The cynic thinks that this will cut down on the likelihood of it happening again now people have a bubble family.

Charleygirl5 Wed 10-Jun-20 22:48:54

I live on my own - does that mean I can visit my nephew and his partner but they cannot visit me or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jun-20 22:49:57

I think you can come and go willynilly now.

MissAdventure Wed 10-Jun-20 22:50:57

Oh, as long as nobody is shielding.

ginny Wed 10-Jun-20 22:54:29

Charleygirl5, you can visit them, they can visit you. None of you can then visit anyone else.

Luckygirl Wed 10-Jun-20 22:54:59

And as long as you only do this with one family.

I have two DDs who live locally, each 10 minutes away. Who to choose? The one most in need of child care; or the one with the physical space to make it safer and where I could stay the night if needs be.

Lucca Wed 10-Jun-20 23:19:19

Doesn’t apply to me but it would mean granny could go and visit etc but grandpa, her husband, couldn’t. Tricky.

What is this annoying survey thing that keeps popping up. Y the way ?

WOODMOUSE49 Wed 10-Jun-20 23:44:36

I’m thinking like you mazieD

It’s singles getting together only. The single might have children but there can’t be another adult in the household eg a single can’t visit a couple.

ginny Wed 10-Jun-20 23:51:24

A single person living on their own can visit any ONE other household. That household can have any number of people in it. Once the choice is made none of them can visit any other household.

maddyone Thu 11-Jun-20 00:01:53

I didn’t think it was confusing to be honest. As kate54 says, this measure is for people who live alone. So no couples can see their grandchildren unless they’re in a group of six and outside, in the garden for example. Therefore my 92 year old mother who lives alone, can come to my house on Saturday and come inside the house. Previously she could only come into the garden. However, we can invite our son and daughter in law to garden visit us, maintaining social distancing, and mum can also join the garden group, as we’d still only be five. But only mum can come inside our house. Doesn’t seem too difficult to me.