End of self isolation?

They are taking part in a pilot study doing tests every day, and only going to and from work. Funny the pilot study should have recruited them? ???

news.sky.com/story/pm-and-sunak-not-isolating-despite-being-pinged-after-javids-positive-covid-test-12358198

Strangely enough, Michael Gove was also selected for this pilot, on his return from a football match in Portugal ...

Apparently lots of the ministers (maybe even all) have "signed up" to the pilot.

Certainly the Cabinet Office and Downing Street have signed up. Downing Street has a "Special Testing Centre" set up there.

It has just been reported on Andrew Marr that this is being offered to TFL, Border Force and many others if they are rang by Test and Trace, not available if you are only pinged by the App. Those on this pathway have to test daily.

Extremely convenient for them.

But according to the description of this 'pilot' that the CO & government are supposed to be in, the participants in each condition (i.e. isolating or not isolating) are randomly selected. That is how the validity of the trial is ensured.

What an amazingly lucky coincidence that both Johnson and Sunak have been randomly selected to the 'non isolation' condition...

It is their Bernard Castle moment.

What price good leadership?

If they are taking part in a pilot study and only going to and from work I wonder who made the decision for Sajid Javid to visit a care home during the week. Surely that couldn’t be considered essential business. He walked around amongst a very vulnerable group of residents and mingled with staff while incubating coronavirus.

GrannyGravy13

It has just been reported on Andrew Marr that this is being offered to TFL, Border Force and many others if they are rang by Test and Trace, not available if you are only pinged by the App. Those on this pathway have to test daily.

And you can't see the irony and hypocrisy of this and their timing?

Talk about one rule for the plebs (us all) and one rule for them. Why should anyone listen to anythig they say anymore. I am incandecent about this, and I can assure you I am not the only one. Just talked to close relatives who are lifelong Cons and they are as angry as we are. Their grandchildren have recently lost a lot of school time, one daughter found herself without childcare, and another son lost a massive opportunity- due to having to isolate.

Will you really stand up and say this is fair and right?

I am seriously worried about my son’s care team collapsing due to self isolation (already one down). Am hoping there is a random control trial they can sign up to non-randomly

I can’t believe so many just accept pile after pile of this shit from government. What do they have to do before people wake up to the cronyism and self interest?

Mind you this might even open my mother’s eyes to Johnson which would be a miracle.

Those isolating and complying to all the safety rules must be absolutely furious.

Those being now told to isolate will certainly think twice now.

Not just the 2 of them but Downing Street which is among 20 private and public organisations taking part in this pilot study. It’s for work places so will enable them to continue with essential government business. They will have to test every day. They have to self isolate when not working.

Yes I do think it is fair and right now I understand what it is.

There are several organisations taking part in this are we also furious with them No of course not.
This is nothing new we have to have trials to see how effective it is

Very brave Avalon, and I'll of course respect your opinion.

But I totally disagree- as people will now just delete their ap and say 's*d this' - if they are again, and again, apply the 'do as I say not as I do' tactic- then I am NO longer listenig to anything they say.

Back to Lock down by September?

Two people who I work with applied for this and were accepted straight away. I am aware of a couple of schools also involved in this study. I to be honest am not sure what I feel about it. Those around the person cant consent can they.

GrannyGravy13

It has just been reported on Andrew Marr that this is being offered to TFL, Border Force and many others if they are rang by Test and Trace, not available if you are only pinged by the App. Those on this pathway have to test daily.

This does not sound like bona fide properly run scientific trial (which I'm assuming is what it's meant to be). 'Being offered' is not randomisation, for a start. Randomisation is 'being allocated' to one or the other condition.

This is just an exercise in further demoralisation of the public and continuing the state of chaos that Johnson so loves.

rosie1959

There are several organisations taking part in this are we also furious with them No of course not.
This is nothing new we have to have trials to see how effective it is

Do you know what 'randomisation' means and how important it is in making a what our children & grandchildren are taught to call a 'fair trial'?

Because from everything that's being brought up on this thread it is clear that there's no randomisation and no 'fair trial'. It's crap wool to pull over people's eyes...

Maisie perhaps I just don’t dissect everything

In science, you just have to- or it is all nonsense (as this clearly is)

It’s not a randomised control trial that’s for sure.

Just think it is another case of do as I say, not what I do. One rule for them and another for the rest of us.