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Swearing in front of Gc.

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Yammy Sat 16-Oct-21 18:59:22

Do you swear in front of your grandchildren?
I'll admit both DH and I do. Not really bad language but where we come from Blaspheming is still in everyday use and used constantly. So run to hell, or for Christ's sake is common everyday parlance and we don't realise we are doing it. Our family have never objected and the SIL think it is funny. Yet neither of us swore at work
A relation has got into bother for using the same kind of language and was quite upset they did not realise they were doing it and it was repeated by a toddler. Especially after the language that is used today both to other people and even on T.V., it seems pretty mild.
Our grandparents often referred to children as the buggering bairns and we just accepted it.
How would you feel if reprimanded and would you not swear in the first place?

Grandmabatty Sun 17-Oct-21 07:48:37

I don't swear in front of my children,now in their 30s nor in front of my dgs who is a toddler. I did once when he was in the car and another driver nearly caused an accident involving me. He said it once back in the house and laughed. I ignored it and he never said it again. I was pretty mortified and told his mum who was fairly sanguine about it

Zoejory Sun 17-Oct-21 07:55:19

Not a regular swearer here . I've had my moments but not many

However I'm quite sure our grandchildren have heard all these words and more at school or online

mumofmadboys Sun 17-Oct-21 08:02:56

I hate blaspheming with a vengeance. I am a Christian. I think it is a lot more disrespectful than other swear words. I hate to hear children blaspheming. Swearing seems to be a bad habit which some people fall into.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Oct-21 09:32:26

As a Christian I find the constant use of ‘OMG’ in texts, emails etc very distasteful.

Chestnut Sun 17-Oct-21 09:43:16

What I find most distasteful of all is the casual use of 'mother****er' in American movies. That is a totally foul word which has no place in mainstream use, yet Americans seem to accept it in movies. I have no idea whether it's a word in everyday use over there but if so then that's appalling.

Polarbear2 Sun 17-Oct-21 09:46:54

Driving… that’s the one where I forget. Some idiot will make me swear and I forget I’ve got a littlie in the back. She shamed me the other day by asking me why that man was a >^>>* Nannie? Aargh. I confessed to my DD just in case. She was cool fortunately. Knows life isn’t all rosy and smooth.

JackyB Sun 17-Oct-21 09:48:19

I don't sweat, don't see the point. I tried saying the f word once but it didn't give me any feeling of having let off steam as it is supposed to do.

Anyway, living in. a German environment, swearing is not really an issue. There are no equivalent words in the mainstream.

I was going over some song lyrics that a colleague of my husband's (an English teacher) had written. They were littered with expletives. He was genuinely surprised when I told him that these would be bleeped out, certainly on American radio. I'm not sure about British media as I know that these days quite a lot gets through.

Actually, I am sorry for my grandson as he has been brought up in a very genteel environment and doesn't even have any words (German or English) to express anger or frustration. He's beginning to pick some up at school, though

Shropshirelass Sun 17-Oct-21 09:55:57

I have a very dear friend whose swearing got so bad we didn’t want to go out anywhere with her. Even her DH was upset by it, we were beginning to think she had Tourette’s it was so bad!!! However, someone (she has been spending more time with her brothers and sisters as they have all now retired) must have said something to her because it has stopped, so much more pleasant to be with her again. I find swearing quite offensive.

luluaugust Sun 17-Oct-21 10:08:01

No I wouldn't swear in front of my children or grandchildren, DH and I occasionally have a moment at home.

Cherrytree59 Sun 17-Oct-21 10:08:52

Sugar or
Cheese and rice
In desperation 'Bugga'

Boys are at school now and will sometimes say that another child has used a swear word in class or playground.
So they obviously hear swear words outside the home.

When telling us or parents that a classmate has been in trouble for saying a bad word, we always say 'please don't repeat'.
Even though they are hoppng from one foot to other bursting to say what the child has said!

wildswan16 Sun 17-Oct-21 10:14:03

I would never swear (in any form) in front of anyone - child or adult. There is no need for it.

I was on a bus a few weeks ago and everyone was tut tutting at the language of a couple of men at the back who were obviously a little drunk. They were f-ing and b-ing every second word I just turned round and politely said "hey guys, there's children on this bus, tone it down" and they apologised profusely and didn't utter another word until they got off.

Blondiescot Sun 17-Oct-21 10:31:55

I do try not to swear in front of children, but blaspheming doesn't bother me in the slightest, being an atheist.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Oct-21 10:45:08

So, OP, having heard a lot of opinions, do you still think your swearing and ‘everyday parlance’ and the way your grandparents spoke about children are acceptable? You talk about what is said all the time where you come from. Roughly whereabouts is that?

Blossoming Sun 17-Oct-21 10:47:29

MayBeMaw

Genealogy?

I swear sometimes, when I fall, or drop things, but only when nobody is around. I have occasionally sworn when watching the news. I don’t think I’ve ever sworn in front of any children, I try not to.

Blossoming Sun 17-Oct-21 10:48:04

Oh! Not sure how I quoted you Maw

Peasblossom Sun 17-Oct-21 11:00:28

My MIL who came from the titled classes, used swear words in practically every sentence, as part of her everyday vocabulary.

Only amongst family and peers though. I knew I had been accepted when she started swearing when she talked to me ?

Yammy Sun 17-Oct-21 12:07:27

Germanshepherdsmum

So, OP, having heard a lot of opinions, do you still think your swearing and ‘everyday parlance’ and the way your grandparents spoke about children are acceptable? You talk about what is said all the time where you come from. Roughly whereabouts is that?

To answer three questions that have been asked of me.
1. Why Geneaology. I had been reading the Bishop of Glasgow's curse on the Boarder Rievers five centuries ago my family were one of the main ones. I thought how we speak today and how my parents, grandparents and great grandparents spoke. I realised that we still use some old words and phrases and cursing was and still is part of everyday language.
2. Where do I live, I leave you to work that one out only to say it's renowned for its rain. A lot of sayings are Irish as there were close links, Holy Mary is one. Often used in Irish plays on T.V.
3. As to the cursing in the house I think the answers say it all. Young people today use gutter language I have never used and never would but have had it used at me as a teacher by children as young as 5 and their parents all my career. You only have to hear children on a school bus or in a playground and you realise how foul our language is developing.
Maybe as grandparents, we should try to curb it, as a teacher said to us at school "Swearing is a sign of ignorance you use a swear word because you can't think of a better," Maybe we should show by example and broaden both our own and grandchildren's descriptive language skills.
To finish "Assa Marra how do?", still used today. I say old chap how are you this fine Sunday morning? I certainly won't be giving that up. Can we really as grandparents the "old fossils really change the world . I think after reading some posts on M.N and the language used it will be an uphill struggle.

GillT57 Sun 17-Oct-21 12:27:39

I didn't swear in front of my children when they were little as one slip up ( son in back of car, slammed on brakes due to idiot driver and heard little voice ask 'where is the stupid basket mummy?). However, although I rarely swear when in company, I find that I have become something of a potty mouth when watching the New or Question time grin. Blasphemy doesn't bother me as I am an atheist, but I respect others' views on it, my late DF was a frequent user of 'Jesus H Christ' when frustrated or angry and as far as I am aware, nobody was offended.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Oct-21 14:12:45

Thank you for coming back Yammy. So few do. It’s much appreciated. I agree that some children use pretty foul language, often perhaps to look big in front of their mates. You’re right that it’s up to us to set an example and help children to broaden their vocabulary and as a former teacher you’re well placed to do that. A struggle yes, but a worthwhile one which will add to their life skills. ‘Manners maketh the man’ and all that.

Btw what on earth is Assa Marra a corruption of? You’ve kindly provided a translation but I can’t for the life of me work out the original words despite the Scottish ancestry my DNA results tell me I have. Lead a very sheltered life dontcha know!???

spabbygirl Mon 18-Oct-21 11:15:22

I tell my grandkids they are welcome to swear in front of me and they do it loads and loads for about 10 mins & they forget! I have a personal mission to normalise swearing cos its only a word, my ex used to say to me 'you lying whore, you're not right down there, you're not!' in a really intimidating voice which I find much more unpleasant than an occasional 'shit' or 'fuck' and who doesn't love Billy Connolly who swears all the time but is never offensive

jaylucy Mon 18-Oct-21 11:20:25

I used to swear more than I do but never ever the f- word! In fact, half of the time I didn't even realise that I was swearing !
What brought me up sharp was when I was in Australia a few years ago and just came out with "bloody hell" when we had to do an emergency stop in the car I was travelling in after a cyclist shot across the front of the car.
My niece that was driving, abruptly told me that it is actually illegal to swear in public in Victoria and there are on the spot fines from police if heard or reported .
Made me stop and think !

Motherduck Mon 18-Oct-21 11:22:08

Saw this yesterday which made me smile, but no, I wouldn’t swear in front of my grandchildren.

DiscoDancer1975 Mon 18-Oct-21 11:23:54

jaylucy

I used to swear more than I do but never ever the f- word! In fact, half of the time I didn't even realise that I was swearing !
What brought me up sharp was when I was in Australia a few years ago and just came out with "bloody hell" when we had to do an emergency stop in the car I was travelling in after a cyclist shot across the front of the car.
My niece that was driving, abruptly told me that it is actually illegal to swear in public in Victoria and there are on the spot fines from police if heard or reported .
Made me stop and think !

Good grief...we could make a fortune in this country if they adopted that on our streets! More than speed cameras?

SueEH Mon 18-Oct-21 11:26:13

Having worked in retail during the pandemic I can safely say that thanks to wearing a mask in front of customers my creative swearing has improved no end ?

StoneofDestiny Mon 18-Oct-21 11:27:49

Setting a good example to children cannot mean swearing and blaspheming in front of them surely. I’d have told off anybody who did it in front of mine.