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What would you do in this Situation - Giving out Info.

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PinkSweetPea Thu 07-Feb-19 10:08:03

I received a curt message off my son's partner last night saying she is not happy that I have given out their address to one of my friends of 20+ years , who has a son the same age as my son and a grandma herself and she always sends him a xmas and birthday card and I do the same for her family.

I would never give out their address online or to people I don't know.

My friend asked for his address when they first moved in together 5 years ago before they had their daughter, as she thought it would be nice for him to get the card at his new address, so I gave the address (this was 5years ago) and nothing was said by his partner then.

Well now suddenly she is moaning about it because they have their daughter now and she does not know my friend., my friend lives the other end of the country to them so is not going to be visiting them. Thing is they have recently moved from this address so in fact my friend does not have their new address.

How do I answer her message, I am very cross with her and have text my son this morning to tell him I don't like being told who I can give my sons address to, my friend is the only person who I gave their address to anyway, none of my relatives have their address.

She is a very controlling person and I see this as a way of controlling who he can have contact with, he has lost contact with all his friends from school days and has no friends where he lives now, its all her family. I feel sorry for him as he always seems sad nowadays.

I have not replied back to her yet but I want her to know I am upset by her message but what do I put.
Thanks

Newmom101 Sat 09-Feb-19 08:09:11

Reading it back I wonder if the reason they've mentioned it now is that they don't want the OP giving out their new address. She's mentioned that they've recently moved, maybe they don't want the new address given out. Though they could have gone about it in a better way, with just a 'don't give out our new address please'.

Harris27 Sat 09-Feb-19 08:40:55

Isn't it a sad world we all just can't get on and such pettiness in have two daughter in laws and keep bith at arms length after the way I was treated by my mother in law (complicated) we do get on well but don't live in each other's pockets and I know they come first and know my place! I have a lovely husband who works hard and like me just wants a quiet life!

Maggiemaybe Sat 09-Feb-19 10:17:07

So as I understand it, a long-standing family friend asked if she could have your son’s address, so that she could send him birthday and Xmas cards. You asked your son if this was okay, son said yes, you gave out the address.

Your son’s wife takes exception to this. I’m confused. What business is it of hers, exactly? Does she open his letters as well? confused

Those of you who think the DIL is within her rights here, do your spouses dictate to you as to who you should and shouldn’t keep in touch with?

Lily65 Sat 09-Feb-19 10:27:22

Cards? They will soon be consigned to history. How odd.

Maggiemaybe Sat 09-Feb-19 11:08:33

Doubt it, Lily65. We spend over £1.6 billion a year on them in this country. smile

Maggiemaybe Sat 09-Feb-19 11:10:36

I only know that as my DD2 is a card designer. smile

Lily65 Sat 09-Feb-19 11:23:38

Apologies, I have never been a fan and I thought in this digital age they may be on their way out.

I could not get my underwear contorted over somebody I don't know and will never meet sending me a card!

jenpax Sat 09-Feb-19 11:40:18

I always ask before handing out any personal details like addresses or phone numbers no matter who is asking for it! I recently received a message via FB from an old work colleague of one of my DD (she’s not on FB) asking for her mobile number but I checked with her before giving it. She may be my daughter but she is her own person

Telly Sat 09-Feb-19 11:41:46

Just say you didn't realise it would upset her, and apologise. I would not give an address without asking. I don't know why she is upsent now but I would not go looking for issues.

Maggiemaybe Sat 09-Feb-19 13:22:21

Hey, no apology needed, Lily. As you see, I have a vested interest. smile

OutsideDave Sun 10-Feb-19 16:33:06

It was wrong of you to give out their address, without your sons permission beforehand. If you received his permission ahead of time, But DIL wasn’t ok with it, it’s understandable she’s letting you know now she doesn’t want the address shared again. You don’t have any right to share your son AND dil’s info far and wide with one person clearly strongly objecting. And I do wish the elder generation would stop sharing the contact info of their adult children as if it were there’s to give. Stop triangulating their relationships. If they wanted cards Auntie Ida, they’d make sure she had their address.

lemongrove Sun 10-Feb-19 17:54:59

To be correct, the woman in question is not a DIL as the OP’s son has not married her.
No reason for her to throw a wobbly about a card sent to her partner at all!
A storm in a teacup by a controlling young woman by the sound of it.

Maggiemaybe Sun 10-Feb-19 18:02:06

If they wanted cards Auntie Ida, they’d make sure she had their address.

DS has agreed that he does want “Auntie Ida” to have his address though. What gives his partner the right to veto this? confused

OutsideDave Sun 10-Feb-19 20:06:24

She lives there. It’s between her son and his partner. If he wants Auntie Ida to have THEIR address it would be prudent for OP to encourage her son to give it to her himself, and thus remove herself from the equation. As for splitting hairs over DIL or not- she’s his long time live-in partner and they have a child together. She should be treated no differently than any other DIL, legally wedded or no.

MissAdventure Sun 10-Feb-19 20:31:13

So if its between son and partner, why a curt message to his mum?
She should have nagged the son about it.

PECS Sun 10-Feb-19 20:36:09

If the woman is a longstanding 'family' friend that your son has known since childhood and been part of his life I cannot see why DiL is quite so annoyed. If it is an acquaintance of yours who does not really know your son other than one or two meetings that would be a different matter.

Urmstongran Sun 10-Feb-19 21:04:32

I agree PECS well said.

Maggiemaybe Sun 10-Feb-19 21:12:00

I just find it very odd that someone would want to police their partner’s private correspondence. Alarm bells would be ringing if this was my son.

Maggiemaybe Sun 10-Feb-19 21:14:40

Especially when he has lost contact with all his friends from school days and has no friends where he lives now, its all her family. I feel sorry for him as he always seems sad nowadays.

OutsideDave Sun 10-Feb-19 21:34:47

Because it’s his mum giving out the information, not her partner. Why wouldn’t she go direct to the source of the concern? My DH was included in all manner of church directories And prayer chains without his permission via his mum. He’d constantly receive solicitations from all sorts of people- for money for missions, for job seeking assistance, and solicitations to buy from their Christian business. He didn’t want this garbage choking his virtual and actual mailboxes, but it never occurred to him to tell his domineering mum to knock it off. When we moved in together, and he changed addresses, I did mention to my MIL that we’d appreciate not being added to the church directory and DH would make sure his friends had his updated mailing address. Whenever he visits they make a big show of giving him his mail from the church folks who ‘don’t have his address’ and he makes a big show of dumping it immediately in the bin.

janeainsworth Sun 10-Feb-19 21:52:01

I’m going against the flow here.

I can’t see anything sinister about giving out someone’s postal address, as opposed to their email or phone number.
Until recently, you could find anyone’s postal address via the telephone directory.

I’ve often asked my friends for their DCs’ addresses, for the purposes of sending a Christmas card or a Congratulations on your New Baby card.

And I’ve often given my DCs’ addresses to my friends, for similar purposes.

So OP, yes I think your DiL overreacted. Perhaps she’s hung up on data provision and ‘privacy’.
But don’t make things worse by getting all defensive.
It’s possible to apologise for upsetting someone, without apologising for, or implying, that you were in the wrong.

janeainsworth Sun 10-Feb-19 21:53:25

Data protection

Maggiemaybe Sun 10-Feb-19 23:05:40

Why wouldn’t she go direct to the source of the concern?

So who’s concerned? Not the son, who’s agreed that he wants his address passing on to this family friend. The only one “concerned” is the son’s partner, who apparently has the final say as to who sends a birthday card to him. He’s an adult, not a child, and can decide that for himself.

Namsnanny Sun 10-Feb-19 23:34:03

Don't know if anyone has picked up on the fact that the partner has complained 5years LATER.
A little odd, and controlling.

Your MIL sounds like a one off OutsideDave!!

LiveLaughLaove Mon 11-Feb-19 05:44:07

A lot of people are missing the bigger picture here. From the OP it doesn't seem like this " very controlling young woman," did any of this behind her partners back. Again if the "curt message," was sent to her with the knowledge and consent of her very own son, then everything else including the timeline in years, his previous consent etc., now becomes completely irrelevant - for his consent only means that he's on his partners side and is agreeing with her stance (and NOT yours) in all of this. This unfortunately places you are on the loosing end.

You're 20+ year friendship vs, a relationship with your son and grandchild, which is most important to you? - pick your priorities wisely.
A simple and genuine apology won't kill you for from your post it seems that you resent his partner for spending time with her family. Don't pick a fight with the mother of his children, it'll most likely work against you. Also, when you find yourself in a position where you're fighting more and more with your sons immediate family, as opposed to playing a loving and supportive role, (as expected of a grandparent) then you need to step back and reflect on your overall expectations as a grandparent.

I'm curious to know what your sons response was when you told him how upset you were. Not sure why people get into power struggles over such issues. It is so hard to RESPECT other people? If you insist on having your way, what will you do when they move again and don't provide you with their new address? As it is you already revealed that none of your relatives even have their address, which comes across as a red flag on your side. If you don't voluntarily leave them alone, they will take measures to make you leave them alone. Let go of your anger and reevaluate your approach before they do it for you.