Is the EHCR the new Brexit?

Not listened to the video yet.

Well quite. It might be. You and I are just touching on this on another thread.

I suspect there are other laws that come into play as well?

Possibly. Who knows?

Psst, I think you mean ECHR, the European Court of Human Rights, not the EHCR, the Equality and Human Rights Commisson!

The Geneva something or other of 1945 for example.

LadyHonoriaDedlock

^Psst^, I think you mean ECHR, the European Court of Human Rights, not the EHCR, the Equality and Human Rights Commisson!

Bugger

There is a risk the Tories will denounce the treaty obligation which allows appeals to the Court of Human Rights in order to attack immigration by refugees. That would also prevent appeals to the ECHR about employment rights and a range of potentially discriminatory matters. The Court is nothing to do with the EU - it is a body of the Council of Europe. The idea of the Council was publicly suggested in a 1943 broadcast by Churchill.

Would getting out of the ECHR need a referendum? Like Brexit?
I dont know. I can google. Or/and listen to the video

Googled. Appears not.

No, I thought not fancythat but I thought Sunak had said he has no intention of leaving the ECHR.

What Mr Farage wrote yesterday

"These new promises by the Government to stop the boats are just cynical politics.

When UK legislation is inevitably overruled by foreign judges in Strasbourg, Tories will fight the next election on leaving ECHR.

Meanwhile another 200,000 migrants will have arrived in Britain."

Yes (in answer to the OP and re the ECHR)

Apparently the ECHR is embedded into other things as well

The Good Friday Agreement, the TCA with the EU, the Devolution Settlement, etc [dont ask me about them as dont know much about them].

As it is possible to withdraw from the ECHR, my guess would be, were that to happen at all in the future, the Uk wold take bits of it it liked, and not incorporate other parts?

into a new law

Is this the same Mr Farage who has tried and failed seven times to get himself elected as an MP?

Is this the same Mr Farage who recently got up many noses in Scotland, not all of them independence fans, when he described the Scottish First Minister as "the most unpleasant, sour-faced, humourless leader" he had ever met? Whatever you think of Nicola's politics, that's not the Nicola that I and others who have encountered her know.

I do remember from the 2015 general election campaign, which was just before I moved to Scotland and before the SNP landslide actually happened, a TV debate involving the minor parties – NS for the SNP, Leanne Wood for Plaid Cymru, Natalie Bennett for the Greens and Nigel Farage for what was then Ukip. At the end the three women had a group hug and Farage stood looking lost to one side, whereupon Nicola strode over to Nigel, shook his hand and said something encouraging with a smile (I suspect that Nigel isn't a huggy person). That was the first time I'd seen Nicola in action and I was impressed, but in fact knowing what I know now (declaration of interest: I work for Holyrood) it's entirely in character. As it's entirely in character for Nigel Farage to be duplicitous and utterly without grace or charm.

How could they possibly think that the electorate would support leaving an organisation that, in general, protects them . Oh, hang on a minute….

I h think there are 2 other countries outside of this are Belarus and Russia. Good company then.

I’ll repeat, Sunak has said he has no intention of leaving the ECHR.
In other words, we’re not leaving!

maddyone

I’ll repeat, Sunak has said he has no intention of leaving the ECHR.
In other words, we’re not leaving!

The Tory party lies

Or changes its mind.
Or has new leadership.
Or wants to kow tow to something or someone.
Or just doesnt always keep to its' word.

Mr. Farage is yesterday’s man, he is not in Government, he does however like the sound of his own voice.

Not worth taking up room in my brain.

Not worth taking up room in my brain.

Love it! I'll remember this put down for future use.

Growstuff, WWM2 and all others that keep being so aggressively rude.
- Do you not see that you are bullying? Dominating threads, making others wary of entering any opinion?
- Repeating your truth without any consideration for the experience of others?
- Let alone realise how offensive other find your accusations of racism, xenophobia (yes, there is a difference) and ill-education.
Why not try respecting others? I’d be ashamed of such behaviour.

ExperiencedNotOld

Growstuff, WWM2 and all others that keep being so aggressively rude.
- Do you not see that you are bullying? Dominating threads, making others wary of entering any opinion?
- Repeating your truth without any consideration for the experience of others?
- Let alone realise how offensive other find your accusations of racism, xenophobia (yes, there is a difference) and ill-education.
Why not try respecting others? I’d be ashamed of such behaviour.

I’ve just re read the thread. Can you give me examples of said rudeness and bullying please as I can’t see any.

Even though Sunak said he had no intention of leaving the ECHR when the facts change (as in unworkable anti-refugee laws) he might change his mind. Such action might mess up other areas such as the Good Friday agreement, for example. I hope he does not go down that path but another Tory leader might.