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Assigned female at birth

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pinkprincess Tue 15-Mar-22 22:32:04

One of my granddaughters, who is in her early twenties has just had a letter rom the NHS inviting her to go for a cervical smear test ''because she was assigned female at birth''
AIBU to suggest this is PC going too far?

SueDonim Thu 24-Mar-22 12:26:20

trisher

But it isn't a "smear" test. That was what they used to do. Now they have a look. So how would inviting someone for a smear test be OK? You couldn't do it, it would be medically inaccurate. You could say "come and have your cervix inspected" "or come for a colposcopy" but not "you are invited for a smear"

Omg! This is such wrong information! You really need to educate yourself, Trisher instead of disseminating such rubbish.

Here’s a link to help you. www.nhs.uk/conditions/cervical-screening/

Rosie51 Thu 24-Mar-22 12:30:55

SueDonim

trisher

But it isn't a "smear" test. That was what they used to do. Now they have a look. So how would inviting someone for a smear test be OK? You couldn't do it, it would be medically inaccurate. You could say "come and have your cervix inspected" "or come for a colposcopy" but not "you are invited for a smear"

Omg! This is such wrong information! You really need to educate yourself, Trisher instead of disseminating such rubbish.

Here’s a link to help you. www.nhs.uk/conditions/cervical-screening/

If you look at trisher's reply to me at 12.07 you'll see she only did a quick google ? Yet felt confident to assert that smear tests are no longer done.

Doodledog Thu 24-Mar-22 12:31:55

Today's not going well for you, is it trisher? ?

It's unfortunate that the cheerleaders have gone to ground and left you to it, but that could have been predicted, I think.

SueDonim Thu 24-Mar-22 12:36:14

Ah, yes! I have a slow internet connection so didn’t see that until after I’d posted. It makes you wonder what other things people post after a quick Google. ?

trisher Thu 24-Mar-22 12:38:42

Well Doodledog at least I am big enough to admit when I am totally wrong.
I take it by cheerleaders you are referring to VioletSky and Gagajo the only other women brave enogh to face the abuse hurled at anyone who supports transpeople on these threads. They seldom actually do Cheerleading - you know the Good post Doodledog. Well said Rosie51 accompanied by some emoji like clapping hands. They usually actually say something.
But anyway they both work. And generally ignore you lot. Which as I am constantly being told I should as well.

Mollygo Thu 24-Mar-22 12:40:23

It’s really difficult and embarrassing when you post something to support your POV and then discover it’s wrong and doesn’t support your POV.
Before we all get told to be kind, you have my sympathy trisher.
In case you missed the link, it’s here.
www.nhs.uk/conditions/cervical-screening/

Doodledog Thu 24-Mar-22 12:44:30

Do you? Can't say I've noticed. It seems to me that you double down when you have made a bit of a fool of yourself. But whatever.

The 'well said' posts come from both 'sides' incidentally; but as a matter if interest - how do VS and GJ simultaneously ignore us and 'actually say something'?

trisher Thu 24-Mar-22 13:00:40

Doodledog

Do you? Can't say I've noticed. It seems to me that you double down when you have made a bit of a fool of yourself. But whatever.

The 'well said' posts come from both 'sides' incidentally; but as a matter if interest - how do VS and GJ simultaneously ignore us and 'actually say something'?

Oh I always admit when I've made a fool of myself. It's called having a sense of humour

Of course if you don't understand the difference between statements and applause that explains why you'd accuse someone of cheerleading when they obviously aren't.

SueDonim Thu 24-Mar-22 13:06:16

So erring by providing misinformation is now a matter of having a sense of humour?

Doodledog Thu 24-Mar-22 13:32:16

Of course if you don't understand the difference between statements and applause that explains why you'd accuse someone of cheerleading when they obviously aren't.

That'll be it smile.

Fortunately, I do have a sense of humour, or I'd be in a permanent state of apoplexy on these threads. I'm happy to be disagreed with, and believe it or not I do have a certain sympathy when someone puts their foot in it - it can happen to the best of us - but having my words twisted, and being accused of not caring about women, or all the other smears on my character would be infuriating if it wasn't done so transparently badly.

Mollygo Thu 24-Mar-22 13:45:06

SueDonim

So erring by providing misinformation is now a matter of having a sense of humour?

You learn something new every day!

trisher Thu 24-Mar-22 14:02:46

but having my words twisted, and being accused of not caring about women, or all the other smears on my character would be infuriating if it wasn't done so transparently badly
Oh I so agree how many times have I been told I'm mysogynistic, put men first, think women should be abused. There are so many instances I really have lost count.

Mollygo Thu 24-Mar-22 14:05:44

Wow, now we’re a ‘you lot’. Bit of a come down in the vocabulary stakes trisher.
If we didn’t feel the need to point out that TW are males, ergo they can’t be women (without someone claiming the right to alter the meaning of words to suit their purpose, just as incorrectly as swapping cervix for colposcopy) this thread would not exist.
If we didn’t have to continually point out that it’s only the ill-intentioned trans who we feel the need to reject, not all trans, threads like this would fade away. (I’m happy to clarify ill-intentioned trans if you’ve missed it in an earlier post.)
If we as feminists (or not) didn’t have to support women who are abused, attacked, cancelled by trans activists and i-i tw whose actions seem to be accepted by some posters, the silence would be blissful.
While posts damaging to AHF women and the majority of tw, and incorrect statements about changing sex, continue to be posted, we have no option but to post, rather than let untruths and damaging statements stand.
The answer is in your hands.

trisher Thu 24-Mar-22 14:06:53

Mollygo

SueDonim

So erring by providing misinformation is now a matter of having a sense of humour?

You learn something new every day!

No the sense of humour is having the ability to laugh at yourself . It's something you need on these threads. God knows if you took some of this stuff seriously you'd cut your wrists especially if you imagined the lot posting on here were anything like real life.

Rosie51 Thu 24-Mar-22 14:16:19

trisher

Mollygo

SueDonim

So erring by providing misinformation is now a matter of having a sense of humour?

You learn something new every day!

No the sense of humour is having the ability to laugh at yourself . It's something you need on these threads. God knows if you took some of this stuff seriously you'd cut your wrists especially if you imagined the lot posting on here were anything like real life.

So what you're actually saying is providing misinformation about screening for a serious female health risk is OK as long as you laugh at yourself once this is identified. Added to this it was done totally as a 'gotcha' that misfired, after 'a quick google'.

Mollygo Thu 24-Mar-22 14:27:23

trisher
Mollygo
SueDonim
So erring by providing misinformation is now a matter of having a sense of humour?
You learn something new every day!

No the sense of humour is having the ability to laugh at yourself . It's something you need on these threads.
God knows if you took some of this stuff seriously you'd cut your wrists especially if you imagined the lot posting on here were anything like real life.
You’re part of the lot who are posting, trisher.
You mean you aren’t like that in real life? That’s really good news.

Rosie51 commented;
So what you're actually saying is providing misinformation about screening for a serious female health risk is OK as long as you laugh at yourself once this is identified.
Evidently, yes!

trisher Thu 24-Mar-22 15:21:09

Oh dear I've just had to wipe out my own post. It was so insulting and about the style of post now being adopted on these threads (naughty trisher!!!)
Still it shows some people just copy others doesn't it.
Cheerleading has become imitation. (the sincerest form of flattery)

Mollygo Thu 24-Mar-22 15:23:09

Cheers trisher!

Doodledog Thu 24-Mar-22 15:25:33

trisher

Oh dear I've just had to wipe out my own post. It was so insulting and about the style of post now being adopted on these threads (naughty trisher!!!)
Still it shows some people just copy others doesn't it.
Cheerleading has become imitation. (the sincerest form of flattery)

Eh?

I don't understand any of this.

Mollygo Thu 24-Mar-22 15:50:01

* Doodledog*
trisher
Oh dear I've just had to wipe out my own post. It was so insulting and about the style of post now being adopted on these threads (naughty trisher!!!)
Still it shows some people just copy others doesn't it.
Cheerleading has become imitation. (the sincerest form of flattery)
Eh?

I don't understand any of this.
Me neither.
Either it’s been a long afternoon or GNHQ haven’t got round to deleting one of her insulting posts as quickly as she wanted. Don’t worry.

trisher Thu 24-Mar-22 16:08:49

Oh Mollygo I think you are being disingenuous

VioletSky Thu 24-Mar-22 16:12:41

trisher

Oh dear I've just had to wipe out my own post. It was so insulting and about the style of post now being adopted on these threads (naughty trisher!!!)
Still it shows some people just copy others doesn't it.
Cheerleading has become imitation. (the sincerest form of flattery)

I take screenshots.

Because things that break guidelines get deleted and my background can make me susceptible to some of the narrative changes that happen afterwards. Screenshots prevent that from happening. The comments I actually saw anyway

Rosie51 Thu 24-Mar-22 16:24:52

Must get the pompoms out ???

Doodledog Thu 24-Mar-22 17:08:31

trisher

Oh Mollygo I think you are being disingenuous

Well, I'm not, and I'm bewildered. Who has wiped what, and why? And more to the point, how?

As far as I can tell, nothing has been deleted, and we can't edit our own posts, so I have no idea what's going on.

Mollygo Thu 24-Mar-22 17:30:35

I didn’t understand trisher’s post either Doodledog. She said she’d wiped out one of her insulting posts, but I couldn’t find one of her insulting posts that said ‘deleted at poster’s request’. So it’s very puzzling.

The big word she used means,

pretending that one knows less about something than one really does

But I really hadn’t a clue what she meant, and when I couldn’t find an insulting post that had been deleted at the poster’s request, I thought perhaps she was TTP again.