I'm English and I'd never drop by a relatives house without letting them know first either. I don't think it's exclusive to Canadians. Just good manners.
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(161 Posts)I'm updating on my situation (at my peril, I know. Some posters seem to strongly dislike this story..). The unannounced visits have stopped since posting...except for today.
I wouldn't have found it strange, except that my FIL came round at noon to do some gardening (he has vines on our property that he doesn't want to get rid of even though they aren't producing anything) and I pretended not to notice he was there (it's a large property, so it's easy not to spot him from the lower level). He never came to the door. As soon as I spotted him, I stayed upstairs just to see if he'd come to the door so that I could safely ignore it, as we've asked them to just call us before coming.
When my husband came home, he pointedly (and aggressively) told his dad not to peer into the windows and to call if he was stopping by. Apparently, his dad acted like a bad dog who had been hit over the nose with a newspaper (his words, not mine). My husband comes in for lunch and doesn't mention anything to me. As far as he knows, I have no clue his dad was even around. I didn't mention anything to my husband either.
My husband leaves for work.
At 4pm, my FIL comes back, finishes up his gardening and comes up to the house, peering in all the windows. When he gets to the last set, we lock eyes and I was a bit startled. I let him in and we talked for a few minutes. He holds the squirmy baby, trying to wriggle out of his arms as she's shy and then leaves.
He says "oh you only want your mom! Well your mom is your best friend. Then it's your dad. Then it's your grandparents." I find this commentary strange, because this hierarchy is universal, and it's a given...but they always tell the baby some variation of this...
He asks me how baby is doing and tells the baby he hasn't seen her in four days. They also always count the days and comment to the baby about time passed). Mind you, I invited them over 2 days ago, but he didn't come with MIL and MIL has been sick, so she's staying away at my request until 100% better....she said she got really cold the other day and started vomiting at night (she says it was drafty). I told her she probably caught something from someone else and that it could be contagious, so please wait a few says, as baby has taken a week to get over a cold that she still has).
FIL left and I was okay with the unannounced visit, as he hasn't ever done that before unless his wife is around. But when I mentioned his dad coming around later, my husband was shocked that he hadn't called. I too, was then disturbed by the reiteration of a request, ignored by FIL. It's bizarre behaviour, as FIL at noon knew he hadn't finished and was going to come back. He ignored his son's pointed request and peered through the windows anyway. Is this normal?
DH wanted to go and tear a strip off his dad, but he's not great with words and his parents are obviously bad listeners. I'd rather wait it out, but I do think of leaving Italy every day and moving back to Canada and tell my husband this (so he'll follow me...). Writing this out, it all seems crazy and ridiculous. I must be hormonal. Please advise me on this situation and not speculation of my mental state
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I was upset about this unannounced visit because it seems like his parents just don't care about reasonable requests and I feel that when I have to go back to work, they won't respect our wishes (putting baby in a carseat/watching English DVDs we give them rather than Italian cartoons). I feel like leaving every day and tell my husband that we shouldn't live around the corner from the in-laws. He said we can pick up and move house to a place outside of walking distance, but I think that's OTT.
Am I being unreasonable?
Perhaps you've tried Mums Net with no satisfactory results?
I did ask a Canadian friend and she tells me she would never drop in to someone's home without first checking up if it was convenient. It must be a cultural thing!
I must have missed the bit about offering your FIL a drink as you said you were keeping away from him until he came up to the house at 4pm and eyeballed you through the window.
Perhaps I misunderstood.
I'm just wondering how moving away will help when you go back to work? Or what will happen if one of them has a cold, cold sore, tummy upset? Do you have a backup plan?
You have a lot to think about and Mumsnetters may have more practical answers for you.
Thanks for the replies. I appreciate it.
I did invite him in and offer him water and coffee...
There wasn't a tea cup Resurgam!
Or even a glass of water.
Perhaps that was the problem
Gardening can be very thirsty work.
Well this little tirade from Naty is the most ridiculous thing I have heard since I joined in 2012. Lighten up.
A storm in a tea cup comes to mind.
Life is too short for such bickering .
I agree, there are a couple (or more) posters whose natural home would seem to be Mumsnet rather than Gransnet, so I wonder why they keep asking for advice on here, ignoring the advice but coming back for more.
Honestly, you may find more to your liking on Mumsnet as you sound anguished Naty and may find other posters your own age who will help you.
If your PIL were the ones to post we could advise them.
mcem I have a feeling you might be right. Maybe time to 'wind up' this one.
So you didn't say "Hi, would you like a
" then?
Frankly, I find that very odd.
Sorry.
mcem I already suggested Canada as a popular destination for young families who want to avoid the-in-laws.
Vancouver Island is even more isolated and absolutely beautiful.
When you have npd you know something is off.
Npd is no joke, I hate how it is named to justify a family disagreement and invalidate the mother.
Go to the doc to make sure you don't have it. You have a huuuuuuuge case of nice girl syndrome and wanting to vent vs fix the problem
When you hit rock bottom and do want to do something to fix this, reread your threads and take action.
Til then, best of luck. You are making your own bed, enjoy it.
I am shaking my head, naty.
Your MIL is happy because she is back to seeing the baby daily.
daily! What are you thinking! This is such a you problem. Smh.
You are rewarding her bad behaviour, not giving any consequences for her actions and on top of it, you care too much about what hurts pil, not your core family.
Well you're not alone in your thinking!
Inheritance from wealthy family notwithstanding- it's "not working for you" so instead of adapting and compromising you just opt out and depriving your child of grandparents counts for nothing?
Another young couple who can't tackle the reality of the life they willingly bought into?
mcem I'm seriously considering the move. Just talked to my family today. They are supportive. They know the in-laws well and they think they are lovely, but know that I'm ultimately unhappy.
Maybe this is a just in my own head. I'll investigate PND.
Thanks for the responses, everyone.
"Your world is too tight, too enclosed with baby, husband, in-laws."
Englantine yes!
So.....feeling put upon by the attitudes of DH's family?
Restricted by their traditions and customs?
The alternative is to take off and head to Canada where you'd feel more at home.
Déjà vu anyone?
M0nica
Yes, I'm used to just asking for help if and when I need it and not being expected to hand my kid over for the grandparent experience. I wasn't aware of how big of an obligation I would feel.
glammagram I think I'm being suffocated too. But MaaYBE we're making progress. I took the baby over to them for an hour today and for the first time MIL isn't insisting we have lunch there this weekend. I'll have DH take the baby over tomorrow, though. It obviously hurts them not to see her as often as possible.
Eloethan yes, you're right. I think it's OTT to move house to somewhere within Italy and just outside of walking distance, but a decent idea to move to Canada.
Eloethan no, it's not a spoof. But funny thing is, I AM biracial! Haha. I am very close to my family. I have a large extended family we've spent a good amount of time with. We will be going to Canada next month as well. I enjoy company when I am not overwhelmed or tired or unprepared. I like notice, even if it's 15 min.
Hithere I agree with you saying that we're just kids to them. I know that it takes a while for some grandparents to get on board with the shift.
ExD1938 the unannounced visits stopped but then FIL decided to peer in the windows yesterday. So...they stopped and we'll see if they continue. I was just very upset yesterday going into a negative thought pattern.
CrazyH that's great if it works for you.
Ok, I'll google DWIL
Shelmiss I wasn't going against you. Maybe the text format seems aggressive.
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