My DIL asked me, if I thought she could make my son happy, as she already had a teenage son and did not want more children.
I said that he had often said he did not particularly want children and advised her to talk to him about it. I also told her, that whether they did or did not have a child or children, was their business entirely, and neither my husband nor I would try to influence them, nor criticise the decision they came to.
No, women are not possessions, but surely we are being a little too women's lib if we throw all old traditions out of the window?
Would the wedding service not be extremely boring if we revised it so completely that no-one promised to love and cherish their spouse in sickness or in health etc.?