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Is marriage hard work?

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kittylester Wed 12-Jan-22 08:09:40

DD2 is supporting a good friend who is unhappy in her marriage. DD finds it frustrating that her friend keeps sweeping the problems under the carpet.

The friend's argument is that, unless one is very lucky, all marriages are hard work.

Is that true?

Talking it over with my daughters and my one co-habitting son, we agreed that it is hard work on occasions but in general it shouldn't be.

What do you think?

Smileless2012 Wed 12-Jan-22 09:57:44

I would too kitty and peace hasn't been something I've traded over the 41 years of our marriage, our relationship gives me peace.

Nortsat Wed 12-Jan-22 09:58:33

Sometimes.

We have been together for 46 years. It’s not been perfect but it’s been good.
All relationships (with parents, siblings, partners and children) require work from time to time.

Would I do it all over again? Yes, I would … I might change some small things but overall it’s been very good.

Grannybags Wed 12-Jan-22 10:01:01

It's our Golden Wedding this year and yes it has been hard at times!

More good times than bad though. As my lovely Mum used to say "you have to swallow gimlets sometimes!" (and she didn't mean the cocktail...)

eazybee Wed 12-Jan-22 10:02:48

Marriage can be hard work if it is the wrong couple or if there is outside interference.
Then there is the french (?) saying: there is one who loves and one who is loved.

henetha Wed 12-Jan-22 10:05:03

My marriage was certainly hard work. And I'm glad I ended it. But I secretly envy people who are happily married.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 12-Jan-22 10:21:12

My husband said it depends who you’re married to. Apparently I’ve been really fortunate! ?

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 12-Jan-22 10:22:12

40 years this year, of ‘ being fortunate ‘

TerriBull Wed 12-Jan-22 10:24:41

Well the question posed is entirely subjective and depends on umpteen variables, the most important being do the two people in the marriage have enough of the right stuff to take them through life's path together. Once upon a time separation wasn't an option largely because of financial constraints and society's attitudes. Now I believe something in the order of 50% of relationships founder, maybe before they've reached that deeper stage that hopefully evolves in longer lived partnerships of contentment and an acceptance of each others foibles. I know of at least two married couples who have survived into a happier stage in later life, only due to the extreme tolerance of one of the partners in the marriage. Long lasting happy marriages are imo something to be lauded in this day and age of throw away everything. I think I was moved when I read about Jack Dromy's recent death because my gut feeling, and of course I can't know, but I imagine, that was a happy and long lived marriage sometimes couples exude that quietly, not in an over the top public declaration of love that so many well known faces put out there into the public domain these days. When I felt sad for Harriet Harman I guess I was feeling sad in projecting myself into that loss of a deeply loved partner.

Maybe we are shaped by our earliest experiences of marriage, which would be that of our parents. My parents were catholics so divorce wasn't something they would have contemplated, but the extreme tolerance of my mother was what carried them through and although my father , a difficult and irascible individual, appreciated her much towards the end of his life, most of their marriage he took her for granted. I think that from an early age I had a subliminal feeling that being taken for granted wasn't something I wanted from a relationship.

I think there has to be a lot more to underpin an initial attraction, kindness, humour, conversation, mutual appreciation, not having vastly differing attitudes to raising children or money and tolerance are all pretty important components to getting along. So to address the original point, are all marriage are hard work, well some will be and if they are too much in the way of the hard work variety then they probably won't last. Particularly as there will be the stresses of children, extended family, bereavements, money, working lives, where a mutual support has to be there. Ideally, though no they shouldn't be massively hard work, sometimes maybe, but for most of the time no, but again that's down to the person one marries and an ability on both sides to understand each other.

Sparklefizz Wed 12-Jan-22 10:41:34

Hetty58 endless carefree happy days

You are so lucky, Hetty. I don't think I've ever had "endless carefree happy days" even as a child, having grown up in a household where my parents argued and shouted constantly.

BBbevan Wed 12-Jan-22 10:43:12

Not if you choose the right person.

LauraNorderr Wed 12-Jan-22 11:11:05

We certainly haven’t traded freedom, independence, peace or silence, we have chosen to be together through life and share our freedom, our independence, our peace and our moments of silence.
We do many things together and many things separately, we laugh a lot, we disagree at times, we talk to each other, we make allowances, we compromise. We show each other love and respect.
None of it seems like hard work.

EllanVannin Wed 12-Jan-22 11:16:43

I'm an oddity I think as I take things as they come whatever they might be. I don't think anything's hard work unless you make it so, but that's me.
Life is what you make it.

kittylester Wed 12-Jan-22 11:20:23

That is what i feel too but it's picking the right person, isn't it, Laura and aging together well.

And, marrying for the right reason.

paddyann54 Wed 12-Jan-22 11:22:48

I've probably spent more time with my OH than most,we worked together for almost 2 years before we married ,one of those as a couple then for 46 years in our own businesses ,We have rarerly been apart for longer than a few hours.
We have very different natures,I'm very laid back ,nothing much annoys me,he was a fly off the handle ,throw a mug at a wall type in the beginning,not now or for a decade or more.
Its never dull around him and we laugh our wee socks off at some things that nobody else finds funny .He's my world and he says I'm his .We are very lucky ...or we chose well .

Smileless2012 Wed 12-Jan-22 11:49:54

"He's my world and he say's I'm his" that's lovely paddyann and is how we feel too.

jaylucy Wed 12-Jan-22 11:57:23

Some can be and if we go into it, expecting everything to be romance and light , we may be in for a struggle as I believe that most marriages go through rough and difficult times at some point.
It's wanting to deal with those difficult times that makes a difference.
It may well be frustrating for your DD to see how her friend is dealing with her marriage . Some people work on the idea that if you ignore it, it will disappear which may well work for a while.
What your DD needs to do more than anything is to keep quiet and be supportive as well as pick up the pieces if it does all fall apart. Anything more than that, and she will be the bad guy!

H1954 Wed 12-Jan-22 12:02:46

I think marriage becomes hard work when there's no compromise on both sides.

Kupari45 Wed 12-Jan-22 12:10:32

I think we had to" work at our marriage" in the early years. We both had demanding jobs and family to look after . However as we have become older , we can laugh at ourselves more. What used to bug me when I was younger doesn't seem to be important now.
Now we are both 77 years old, have lots of different interests , also have days out together , I haven't felt marriage was hard work for many years. My OH is my friend, lover and he makes me laugh. So glad we got through the difficult years when we were younger.

sodapop Wed 12-Jan-22 12:28:10

DiscoDancer1975

My husband said it depends who you’re married to. Apparently I’ve been really fortunate! ?

Love it DiscoDancer grin

I think most marriages go through difficult times as well as good ones. As someone else said compromise is the way forward. Not something I'm good at but my husband is so tolerant I try to accommodate him. So many couples don't seem to discuss potential areas of conflict either so things fester. I have definitely mellowed as I've got older and don't fly off the handle so much. My husband says it's only child syndrome where I don't like to share and want my own way. He has four siblings.

M0nica Wed 12-Jan-22 13:24:45

Any long term relationship has its ups and downs, whether it is being a spouse, a parent, a child, a friend, a business colleague or anywhere where two adults have a close relationship over a long period.

Relationships that work rely firstly on choosing with care who you get into a relationship with and secondly accepting that any relationship is based on compromise and both parties should compromise equally, or the one who compromises the most should have good reason to think it worthwhile.

I have been married 54 years, and yes, in that time we have had some difficult times, but we have had many happy times as well.

DD decided against any kind of partnership and having children because she said she was too uncompromising to do either successfully.

AreWeThereYet Wed 12-Jan-22 15:32:36

Relationships that work rely firstly on choosing with care who you get into a relationship with and secondly accepting that any relationship is based on compromise and both parties should compromise equally, or the one who compromises the most should have good reason to think it worthwhile.

Agree with this. I also think the more respect and affection you have for someone the easier it is to compromise, partly because you want them to be happy but also because you know the care will be returned.

Kathy73 Wed 12-Jan-22 16:02:53

Marriage is a journey, some people instinctively partner up with a soul mate with a strong probability of the relationship lasting.However, on that journey there will be unexpected up and downs. How the partnership deals with those situations will determine its success
I think this is significant - two people can love each other very much, and live together quite amicably - but then life throws curveballs (a disabled child, a serious illness, a financial disaster, job loss, etc) which really test the relationship.

crazyH Wed 12-Jan-22 16:13:53

I’m really happy for those who are in long, happy marriages, but that doesn’t stop me envying you ?

lovebeigecardigans1955 Wed 12-Jan-22 16:15:06

Surely a marriage is only hard work if you are with the wrong person? A couple should be comfortable with each other. If one person makes it difficult (the other treading on eggshells, as it were) then it seems like a red flag to me.

AreWeThereYet Wed 12-Jan-22 16:35:58

I think all marriages are hard work from time to time, even those that are generally the happiest. We're going through a new phase now where we are both retired and at home together and little time apart. So it's probably just as well we are well practised at compromise as this could turn into one of the hardest times of our relationship ?