Polnan, perhaps Kittylester's daughter is where we were with a friend of ours who walked around slating her husband for his unreasonable behaviour, lack of empathy, etc, etc. We gave bucket loads of sympathy, assisted her to get legal advice, counselling, etc, etc. After a number of years of this, we all agreed that she was never going to help herself and that we had done all we could so we would stop actively trying to help her. We let her complain for a short time, then would try to change the subject. One day, out of the blue, she announced she was leaving said husband. It turned out that she had met somebody else so had found the confidence to leave with his support. Personally, I thought it rather sad that she muddied the waters but maybe after all those years of living with her husband, she had lost all confidence in her ability to cope without him. It is a classic sign of abuse/coercive control but we didn't know that then.