Presuming BJ goes.

Sorry this is off topic but I can't let this go. Sturgeon and free sanitary stuff:

MSPs unanimously approved the Period Products (Free Provision) (Scotland) Bill on Tuesday.

There is now a legal duty on local authorities to ensure that free items such as tampons and sanitary pads are available to "anyone who needs them".

The bill was introduced by Labour MSP Monica Lennon. She has been campaigning to end period poverty since 2016.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-51629880

What a terrible country we live in. All these people agreeing with each other, its awful.

Sorry, back to the topic.

You are joking, Andy Burnham is absolutely useless, and has very dubious business dealings, I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him, odious man

As a fully paid up member of the Conservative party I voted for Boris Johnson in the last leadership election and would do so again.
I am not interested in his private life which does indeed sound chaotic at best.
I voted for him because he is optimistic, ambitious and unafraid.
I believe that his ambition to go down in history as a great prime minister would have led him to follow his manifesto commitment of levelling up, of spending hugely on infrastructure, of tackling crime and drug crime in particular and controlling immigration.
Sadly two things put the kybosh on this, firstly the pandemic which threw the world in to total chaos. Our country more than most due to our huge population contained on our small island and us being a travel hub.
Secondly our media who seem to have more hatred for Boris Johnson than any previous leader. He has been hounded by the press from day one. An argument in a previous flat made weeks of headlines insinuating that domestic violence had occurred and yet that same couple are now married with two children. The decoration of the Downing Street flat blown out of all proportion. The incumbent is likely to be there for five years so redecorating to their taste should not be an issue and if a party donor is willing to fork out for it I don’t see a problem.
Now we have huge and malevolent coverage of the ‘parties’. Downing St is a block of offices employing large numbers of civil servants and other staff. Many were working when others were furloughed or working from home. A debrief on a Friday is not unusual for many companies. Often a glass of wine and a few nibbles. During lockdown it is possible that the debrief could be held outdoors to take advantage of sunny weather, social distanced and an opportunity for the PM to say thank you to staff who risked coming in to work. Other parties seem to have been arranged by civil servants while the PM was at Chequers. Cats away, mice will play.
I’m not saying any of this is the case but these scenarios are possible, so instead of the media hyping up as wrong doing why not wait until after the investigation.
To change PM now would be destabilising. We have the threat of Russia and China working to this end but neither need to bother while our own media are doing the job for them.
I’m not going duck behind a parapet as Tories are expected to do on gransnet but will sit back and enjoy.

As a fully paid up member of the Conservative party I voted for Boris Johnson in the last leadership election and would do so again.

Blimey

It has to be a sitting Tory MP so Burnham is out as is Rory Stuart, Ed Balls, David Milliband, etc. We are faced with a very poor generation of Tory and Labour politicians in the Commons and of course it's not our choice. As the party in power the Tories have to choose according to their rules. If BJ won a vote of confidence (as did John Major) he would be safe for 12 months. If not, he goes and the choice is mainly between Truss and Sunak - either are likely to find favour with the Tory grassroots - as likely vote winners. All others are also rans in my opinion. If it were for me to choose I would choose Jeremy Hunt as the most competent and experienced (and he came 2nd last time).

Ah, now we know where Johnson is hiding.......he is on GN, masquerading as Lauranorder. . Your forgot to mention the 'illegal immigrants being put up in 4 star hotels' and maybe a quick rant about 'hard working pensioners being threatened with prison over their BBC tv licence'. Best laugh I have had all morning Oh, and don't forget Starmer having a beer while at work.........

Rory Stewart. He seems honest, decent and principled.
Rishi did brilliantly with the Covid Crisis but seems to regard older people as having no worth, so I would be shooting myself in the foot if I voted for him. However, there is a good chance that we will freeze to death before very long with fuel prices getting completely out of hand. I never in my life expected to be sitting at my computer with all of the window blinds down at this time of day with part of the room curtained off to keep what heat there is concentrated on the middle part of the room.

I like Agnela I think she actually believes what she says rather than just says what she thinks we want to hear or just to be annoying. I think her and Starmer would be good together as they have a different approach to communicating.

I agree

LauraNorderr

As a fully paid up member of the Conservative party I voted for Boris Johnson in the last leadership election and would do so again.
I am not interested in his private life which does indeed sound chaotic at best.
I voted for him because he is optimistic, ambitious and unafraid.
I believe that his ambition to go down in history as a great prime minister would have led him to follow his manifesto commitment of levelling up, of spending hugely on infrastructure, of tackling crime and drug crime in particular and controlling immigration.
Sadly two things put the kybosh on this, firstly the pandemic which threw the world in to total chaos. Our country more than most due to our huge population contained on our small island and us being a travel hub.
Secondly our media who seem to have more hatred for Boris Johnson than any previous leader. He has been hounded by the press from day one. An argument in a previous flat made weeks of headlines insinuating that domestic violence had occurred and yet that same couple are now married with two children. The decoration of the Downing Street flat blown out of all proportion. The incumbent is likely to be there for five years so redecorating to their taste should not be an issue and if a party donor is willing to fork out for it I don’t see a problem.
Now we have huge and malevolent coverage of the ‘parties’. Downing St is a block of offices employing large numbers of civil servants and other staff. Many were working when others were furloughed or working from home. A debrief on a Friday is not unusual for many companies. Often a glass of wine and a few nibbles. During lockdown it is possible that the debrief could be held outdoors to take advantage of sunny weather, social distanced and an opportunity for the PM to say thank you to staff who risked coming in to work. Other parties seem to have been arranged by civil servants while the PM was at Chequers. Cats away, mice will play.
I’m not saying any of this is the case but these scenarios are possible, so instead of the media hyping up as wrong doing why not wait until after the investigation.
To change PM now would be destabilising. We have the threat of Russia and China working to this end but neither need to bother while our own media are doing the job for them.
I’m not going duck behind a parapet as Tories are expected to do on gransnet but will sit back and enjoy.

Beautifully put??. So much better than I could have done. I’m sitting quietly waiting for the S..t to hit the fan when we start to hear about other ‘ parties ‘, from other institutions.

There is no doubt in my mind that we will.

Nanna8 Theresa May? The one who couldn't get us out of the EU without giving in to everything they asked for in return? What a wimp. Pity Margaret Thatcher isn't here, at least she didn't stand for any nonsense.

DiscoDancer1975

LauraNorderr

As a fully paid up member of the Conservative party I voted for Boris Johnson in the last leadership election and would do so again.
I am not interested in his private life which does indeed sound chaotic at best.
I voted for him because he is optimistic, ambitious and unafraid.
I believe that his ambition to go down in history as a great prime minister would have led him to follow his manifesto commitment of levelling up, of spending hugely on infrastructure, of tackling crime and drug crime in particular and controlling immigration.
Sadly two things put the kybosh on this, firstly the pandemic which threw the world in to total chaos. Our country more than most due to our huge population contained on our small island and us being a travel hub.
Secondly our media who seem to have more hatred for Boris Johnson than any previous leader. He has been hounded by the press from day one. An argument in a previous flat made weeks of headlines insinuating that domestic violence had occurred and yet that same couple are now married with two children. The decoration of the Downing Street flat blown out of all proportion. The incumbent is likely to be there for five years so redecorating to their taste should not be an issue and if a party donor is willing to fork out for it I don’t see a problem.
Now we have huge and malevolent coverage of the ‘parties’. Downing St is a block of offices employing large numbers of civil servants and other staff. Many were working when others were furloughed or working from home. A debrief on a Friday is not unusual for many companies. Often a glass of wine and a few nibbles. During lockdown it is possible that the debrief could be held outdoors to take advantage of sunny weather, social distanced and an opportunity for the PM to say thank you to staff who risked coming in to work. Other parties seem to have been arranged by civil servants while the PM was at Chequers. Cats away, mice will play.
I’m not saying any of this is the case but these scenarios are possible, so instead of the media hyping up as wrong doing why not wait until after the investigation.
To change PM now would be destabilising. We have the threat of Russia and China working to this end but neither need to bother while our own media are doing the job for them.
I’m not going duck behind a parapet as Tories are expected to do on gransnet but will sit back and enjoy.

Beautifully put??. So much better than I could have done. I’m sitting quietly waiting for the S..t to hit the fan when we start to hear about other ‘ parties ‘, from other institutions.

There is no doubt in my mind that we will.

One thing for sure and which fills me with hope is that you are in a tiny minority.

I think that this thread has jumped the shark, or is close to doing so ?

The pigs are flying today DiscoDancer1975, but not quite that high.

Flying pigs; jumping sharks; saving dogs…

Pity Margaret Thatcher isn't here, at least she didn't stand for any nonsense. I agree with you. Much as I disliked her, and hold her responsible for many of the problems we have today, we can rest assured that she would have kicked Johnson's ar*e out of front line politics the first time he was caught out lying, and would not have tolerated his complete lack of morals. Unlike many on GN who will believe any old sh*t tolerate everything he says, as long as he delivers what they think they have voted for. Strange contradiction.

FannyCornforth

Flying pigs; jumping sharks; saving dogs…

.......drowning immigrants, freezing pensioners. Anything but what a liar Johnson is.

It's better to vote for people cos of policies, not whether you like them or not so that cancels out all Tories since they all want to privatise the NHS & anything else they can, whether it works or not & minimise public spending so they can give huge tax cuts to billionaires. Jeremy Hunt totally vandalised the NHS a few years back so not him, I can't think of one of them I'd vote for if I had to. Any Labour would be my choice, Angela Rayner is great & you have to be a bit gobby to stand up in the Commons, Keir is fine though he is boring, but boring is needed at the moment we need a safe pair of hands in charge & someone to rebuild the NHS One person I did like was Daisy Cooper Deputy Leader of Lib Dems, the leader is a bit boring but Daisy was on Question Time & was great. I would vote for anyone who would rebuild the NHS, we really need rid of the Tories & their dreaded old Etonians, who are rich businessmen making policies to benefit rich businessmen.

LauraNorder - I'm with you backing BJ.

Can't think of one mp from any party that fills me with confidence they all appear to play to the media changing their minds constantly depending on what hits the headlines at that particular day . I'm looking for someone who puts Britain first and who is proud to be British

Hazeld

Nanna8 Theresa May? The one who couldn't get us out of the EU without giving in to everything they asked for in return? What a wimp. Pity Margaret Thatcher isn't here, at least she didn't stand for any nonsense.

Margaret Thatcher?

Do you mean this Margaret Thatcher?

Lauranorderr - well said. Totally agree with you on every point you made. It's been a witch hunt on Boris from day 1

LauraNorder clear concise and refreshing

It's been a witch hunt on Boris from day 1

Why do you think that is?

Could it be because he is the worst PM we've had in living memory?

Oh please no! She has destroyed Scotland with her division and hatred, never mind the litany of errors and misjudgements.