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The King's Speech

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Sparklefizz Mon 26-Dec-22 07:20:35

What did you think? I caught up with it on iPlayer last night just to see how it went as it was his first Christmas speech, and I thought he did quite well.

I also thought it was a very good idea not to be filmed sitting at a desk surrounded by personal photos which could then be picked apart.

Chaitriona Wed 28-Dec-22 14:33:04

I think the king is sincere. That he wants to be a head of state for all the people including people of all faiths. I think that he aspires to be a spiritual person. I noticed his high lighting of people working in the public services during this winter of public service strikes and of people volunteering to provide food for people who are hungry this winter. But he cannot escape the contradictions of his position. He is not a politician, is not supposed to be political, represents whatever government is in power whatever their policies are and is immensely personally privileged and in his role cannot but represent and maintain the view that an unequal society is right and proper. It is not a good thing that people depend on charity to feed themselves and their families. It is shameful. We should ensure that everybody is fed through our collective efforts as a people through the instrument of our democratic institutions. That is what the welfare state was. It is what our generation was lucky enough to be brought up in. And what generations of ordinary British people before us fought and sacrificed to create.

NellieJ Wed 28-Dec-22 14:58:27

I thought the Kings speech was more acceptable to all x and think he has more of a handle on things than people give him credit for .

Parsley3 Wed 28-Dec-22 15:43:22

I too saw Anne curtseying to the Queen's coffin Irismarle and thought that it was such a natural thing for her to do. She was brought up to curtsey to her mother. I am still hoping that the formality surrounding the RF will be relaxed as people who have met the Queen usually express a fear of getting it wrong.

Grany Wed 28-Dec-22 15:43:50

How dare he claim to sympathise with those struggling to feed their families and heat their homes, just days after demanding more money be spent on his pompous coronation.”

Many others also pointed to the fact that Charles did not pay any inheritance tax – which would have been levied at 40% on anything over £325,000 for anyone else – even on the private estates passed down to him by the former Queen.

Callistemon21 Wed 28-Dec-22 16:58:20

Oh! I have déjà vu.

🤔

happycatholicwife1 Wed 28-Dec-22 18:44:19

Never cared for Charles, certainly not Camilla. But he's doing what he thinks best. It is his job now. Miss HRM terribly. Volver, 🙄.

volver Wed 28-Dec-22 19:03:31

Volver, 🙄.

What?

You'll have to be more specific.

Fifiw Wed 28-Dec-22 19:19:15

The new king’s speech appeared to be sincere. It is a new era and no don’t Charles with change things to suit his way of doing things.

Tamayra Wed 28-Dec-22 20:07:21

So true He’s mega rich Why dosen’t he use his money to help those in need ????
I have no time for the Royals self indulgent lifestyles

Callistemon21 Wed 28-Dec-22 20:13:22

Tamayra

So true He’s mega rich Why dosen’t he use his money to help those in need ????
I have no time for the Royals self indulgent lifestyles

I expect he does contribute significantly to charity but why would he tell us? He'd then be accused of virtue signalling.

If we had a decent Government there would be no need for so much charity, although it will always have a place.

IrishDancing Wed 28-Dec-22 20:47:52

Absolutely behind Callistemon21 in what she says.

Mollygo Wed 28-Dec-22 20:51:22

Well said Callistemon21.

Grany Wed 28-Dec-22 21:45:53

Callistemon21

Tamayra

So true He’s mega rich Why dosen’t he use his money to help those in need ????
I have no time for the Royals self indulgent lifestyles

I expect he does contribute significantly to charity but why would he tell us? He'd then be accused of virtue signalling.

If we had a decent Government there would be no need for so much charity, although it will always have a place.

We know he pays no inheritance tax, pockets money from the Duchy over £20 million, pays no corporation tax.

Does not allow tenants to buy duchy land that their house sits on not allowed to leave house to wife or family all goes to Charles. Its feudal, he is all take take take that’s what the Isles of Scilly folk say about him. So let’s assume he’s charitable hmm

Wants £100 million spent on himself Coronation Backward Britain confused

DaisyAnne Thu 29-Dec-22 00:52:11

Oreo

DaisyAnne

I do drive outside the 10 mile radius but I did know a man once who used to regale us with tales of his father and his father's three friends.

They used to go out for day trips with friends father driving. It may help to picture the Yorkshire Dales at this point. The challenge was friends father would only turn left. So every outing had to be worked in a large circle smile

DaisyAnne 😂😂
Sounds like a plot from The Last Of The Summer Wine.
Must have resulted in some funny tours.

A different part of Yorkshire but yes, it did.

One day I'll tell you about the large spider and the Vicar of Dibley style Parish Council Meeting I was invited to. I do not know if there is a God but I firmly believe their is a celestial script writer.

Lathyrus Thu 29-Dec-22 08:40:33

“Does not allow tenant to buy land house sits on, not allowed to leave house to wife or family”

Umm, that’s how tenancy and leasehold works isn’t it? He’s a landlord. The tenants will have known the conditions of their tenancy and chose to enter into the agreement. Or chose not to.

A lot of farms in Britain are owned by large conglomerates and leased to tenants. A lot of people have money invested that system. Including the occasional Scottish politician and her millions😬

volver Thu 29-Dec-22 09:13:04

I wasn't sure about this, so I googled.

The royal family has used a secretive procedure to vet three parliamentary acts that have prevented residents on Prince Charles’ estate from buying their own homes for decades, the Guardian can reveal.

Interesting read, this article.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/09/prince-charles-vetted-laws-that-stop-his-tenants-buying-their-homes

Not quite as blameless as you might think, Lathyrus.

Lathyrus Thu 29-Dec-22 09:23:42

Actually I’m quite worried that a future Government might bring in a law that would enable the tenants of my little terraced house to buy it if they chose.

When I came to live with OH I kept my house to move back to at a future date and let it to a young couple.

Like I said, tenants would know and agree to conditions before they made their choice. why should an owner be forced to sell?

volver Thu 29-Dec-22 09:24:58

Don't worry Lathyrus.

Charles won't let them. You know, that apolitical Head of State we have?

Lathyrus Thu 29-Dec-22 09:27:21

The same law for everyone, rich or poor.

I’d settle for that.

volver Thu 29-Dec-22 09:29:24

The same law for everyone, rich or poor.

How do you square that with your defence of the HoS who made sure the laws didn't disadvantage him personally?

Lathyrus Thu 29-Dec-22 09:36:04

I don’t think Im defending him. I think Im saying that if people take n a commitment like a lease they should expect to stick to the terms they’ve agreed legally.

Even if somebody else thinks it wrong, that’s what both parties agreed.

Also, I’m not really of the mindset that that criticises people I don’t like but is fine with the same behaviour if it’s someone I support. Like accumulating wealth through property.

volver Thu 29-Dec-22 09:44:39

What?

volver Thu 29-Dec-22 09:48:14

OK, in simple terms.

The government thought it was necessary to change the laws on tenancy.

Charles thought it would disadvantage him so he made sure it didn't apply to his tenants in Cornwall. Only to everybody else.

And we're supposed to say "suck it up", that's what you signed up for?

Mollygo Thu 29-Dec-22 10:36:15

Sharing some of the GN threads with DH, he pointed out that, with all the expertise on politics, knowledge of the future, and how to manage other people’s finances, it’s such a shame that none of the posters with that expertise went into politics to do something about it.
Would you agree?

Callistemon21 Thu 29-Dec-22 10:44:35

Mollygo

Sharing some of the GN threads with DH, he pointed out that, with all the expertise on politics, knowledge of the future, and how to manage other people’s finances, it’s such a shame that none of the posters with that expertise went into politics to do something about it.
Would you agree?

Well, I've always thought that Gransnetters could sort out all the world's problems, Mollygo!!