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GagaJo Mon 13-Apr-20 09:17:55

We need to be angry. We need to hold the government to account.

Yes, many of the populace are not abiding by the very lax lockdown. BUT the government should have abided by the WHO advice to TEST, TEST, TEST. By not doing that, they will have cost tens of thousands of British deaths. Our family members, our friends, our colleagues.

When this is over / slowing down, they need to be held accountable. We had THREE months notice. We watched Italy and Spain. And yet, they did nothing.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/12/uk-coronavirus-deaths-preventable-government-account?CMP=share_btn_fb&fbclid=IwAR2jsLJsSxRe8KZ21zS-K3eLKre7QRajhPRhzpLliH2NnAJ9iQwM9Km-FmI

lemongrove Fri 17-Apr-20 17:12:48

The simplistic party political bashing goes on unabated on GN, oh, this is all wrong, that's all wrong, blah blah as the armchair critics have a field day.Which means that they seriously think [unbelievably] that all would be tickety boo if only t'other party were in control.
all the 'the NHS has been run into the ground' nonsense.... from what I have seen with family members in hospital, and what is happening now [ spare beds in ICU for serious cases and two new hospitals already up and running] this is certainly not the case, and the NHS is coping very well with this crisis, so all the doom mongers who were saying not very long ago, with sad shakes of the head 'oh it won't manage at all, it will collapse' and the same doom mongers who were also saying ' no GP's or nurses will come out of recent retirement to help, why should they?!' have been proved very wrong.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 17-Apr-20 17:18:54

A certain mask which we could purchase for £1 each is now being sold by our supplier for £3 each. I am afraid this is the same across a lot of PPE products. Some Companies are getting rich on Covid-19.

maddyone Fri 17-Apr-20 17:19:59

Ooopsminty
Absolutely. This is a worldwide problem. Every country without exception is struggling to get enough PPE. There is a worldwide shortage of PPE. Is that really too difficult to understand for some people? I have a vested interest in the provision of PPE, my daughter and her husband are doctors and need to wear PPE when seeing patients. I know that many Gransnetters are in the same position, their adult children work in ITU. This is not Party political, any government would find it difficult to source sufficient POE.

maddyone Fri 17-Apr-20 17:21:42

lemongrove
Well said.

maddyone Fri 17-Apr-20 17:22:30

Ooops, PPE

Chewbacca Fri 17-Apr-20 17:24:11

The majority of the Dr at my surgery vote Labour

This post wins Daftest Post of The Week Award ?

But I'd love to have seen the GPS faces when they were each asked! grin

Glorybee Fri 17-Apr-20 17:24:48

Great post Lemongrove.

GrannyLaine Fri 17-Apr-20 18:06:12

I agree Lemongrove, well said.

Chewbacca Fri 17-Apr-20 18:20:01

You've made some very salient and positive points in your post lemon; particularly regarding the doom merchant's prophecies that no retired NHS workers would return to voluntarily help out.

Barmeyoldbat Fri 17-Apr-20 18:45:57

Chewbacca do grow up, of course they weren't asked.

Anniebach Fri 17-Apr-20 18:51:26

Perhaps those doctors wore badges ‘vote labour’ and had
a large framed photograph of Corbyn in their consulting rooms, doesn’t mean they voted labour though.

Callistemon Fri 17-Apr-20 18:53:49

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Callistemon Fri 17-Apr-20 18:56:42

Chewbacca do grow up, of course they weren't asked. grin

How did you know, then *Barmeyoldbat^

Chewbacca Fri 17-Apr-20 19:16:25

grin oh barmeyoldbat, can you not see the irony in your post?

No Anniebach, no badges; I'm fairly sure it was telepathy!

MaizieD Fri 17-Apr-20 21:10:16

Sorry, Callistomen, I wouldn't wish it on anyone, what an awful thing to have to live with if one was aware that one had fatally infected someone who was caring for you...

But the consequence of ill protected staff is their vulnerability to infection from this highly contagious virus. I suspect the fact that there is a supposed world wide shortage of PPE isn't much consolation to the staff who are risking their lives daily.

Callistemon Fri 17-Apr-20 21:13:24

At least my young relative has the full equipment at the moment and I hope that remains the same as long as she needs it.

Anniebach Fri 17-Apr-20 21:27:23

I received an email today from Canada, same is happening there,

Callistemon Fri 17-Apr-20 22:13:30

At that time I did not have something which was transmittable to anyone else, MaizieD.

maddyone Fri 17-Apr-20 23:47:35

Maizie
It would be absolutely terrible to know that you had infected someone terminally with the virus, whatever they were wearing. How you live with yourself after that is hard to imagine.

At the moment my daughter and her husband have enough PPE but who knows for the future? I pin my hopes for all medics, wherever they are, and in whichever country they are working in, on the PPE that is being manufactured everywhere, and that production has been stepped up, and then on that PPE arriving quickly so it can be used.
In my area, the south coast, people are sewing scrubs at home. Lots of ladies who can sew and are stuck at home are making scrubs to be used in the hospitals and care homes. They appear to be washable too, made from fabric. Burberry and Barbour are making PPE now too. Plane loads of it are flying in every day, but the need is great and it all has to be distributed.

Starblaze Sat 18-Apr-20 01:32:31

Our government dithered for at least 11 days. Imagine how many were infected in those 11 days and how many could have lived. We could have been testing and tracing by now. People died and that's not forgivable. We should not forget.

craftyone Sat 18-Apr-20 07:51:09

try making some scrubs or being angry starblaze, much better for your own health than this anger which has no substance

craftyone Sat 18-Apr-20 07:52:19

oops: making scrubs or masks instead of being angry starblaze. Better to be positive than always negative

Starblaze Sat 18-Apr-20 09:58:17

I'm not angry, I'm not surprised either. I'm very very sad. I would if I could sew, at all.

MaizieD Sat 18-Apr-20 09:59:26

Burberry and Barbour are making PPE now too.

Yes, I understand that Barbour are making and distributing but Burberry don't appear to have started making them yet according to this tweet from yesterday (which says that the information is sourced from R4 Today programme)

Bruce McD @brucemcd23
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Apr 17
How many times has #MattHancock name checked Burberry as enlisted to help overcome the PPE supply issue ?

Turns out they haven’t received clearance to begin production yet

According to #R4Today Burberry hope to begin production on Monday

Smileless2012 Sat 18-Apr-20 13:36:30

You're right Barmeyoldbat you didn't say those who voted Tory shouldn't clap for the NHS, you said they were two faced for doing so. Just as bad IMO.