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Hypocritical neighbours

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kangaroo73 Thu 07-May-20 20:31:27

My next door neighbours have had a continuous flow of guests today. I think it was somebody’s birthday. They’ve been in the garden drinking etc. Also they went outside to collect a gift from somebody and hugged them just about the time of clapping for the NHS. They had the audacity to join in with the clapping. Am I being a Grinch by being angry w it’s this hypocritical gesture?

AGAA4 Sat 09-May-20 15:32:23

I don't think anyone is spying on their neighbours. If you live nearby you will notice what is going on.
It can be irksome if you have followed the rules, even though you are desperate to see your own family, when people blatantly carry on as normal.
There are reasons why people are asked not to meet up and have parties etc.
All the families who have lost a loved one can explain to those who think it is ok for them to flout the rules.

Kaggi60 Sat 09-May-20 15:35:23

How neighbours invited us out because I wasn't well I thought I would stay in doors because I am on 12 weeks insolation . The other neighbours was enjoying them self's having a party because someone invited in the street then someone phoned the police and blamed us because. it must be us because we did not go out. I think it is wrong to blame other people. We ended up going to say we did not do it because we get the hassle the other people think it is funny.

maryelizabethsadler Sat 09-May-20 15:42:24

I'm a Police volunteer and a member of the local neighbourhood watch: my understanding is that for minor, individual breaches of social distancing, the Police probably won't be able to respond to these events as they would like, but for group breaches you should report and the Police will do their best to respond. Group breaches such as these pose a threat to the wider community...

Hetty58 Sat 09-May-20 15:45:30

Here you go again (some of you) stuck in your ways and applying normal rules to an abnormal situation.

I was accused of being a spy and snitch (weeks ago) for reporting my neighbours. The tide is turning and more agree with me now. People are being reported more often.

Do you really feel safe in your own homes and gardens with so many visitors about? You must have large detached places with grounds - or maybe you just stay inside with the doors and windows firmly shut?

metro.co.uk/2020/04/01/coronavirus-uk-far-sneeze-travel-12492304/

Gwenisgreat1 Sat 09-May-20 16:18:02

Sometimes my neigh ours families are over possibly to do work for her, but often her grandson stays over. I think she is 'shielded' but don't think that is correct behaviour. Have been tempted to report her, butwe have other 'differences' to contend with and I do not wish to worsen the situation.

cassandra264 Sat 09-May-20 16:26:38

If enforcement of the rules put in place to protect us all was better organised, resourced and effective; if the fines given out for first offences were not derisory; if second offences meant much greater fines; if third offences meant prison - we would soon see a change in behaviour, whether the Covidiots understood the reasons behind the Stay Home; Protect the NHS slogan or not.

Our police have not been given the emergency powers they need to do their job in this regard. And that's because our glorious leaders can't make up their minds.

annodomini Sat 09-May-20 16:41:32

lizkaz1. My condolences to you and your family. I can tell how distressing it was for you when you had to say goodbye to your father and yet it was good that you were allowed to do that. xxx

montymops Sat 09-May-20 16:44:35

Sometimes people anxious to tell others where they are going wrong, are not in possession of the full facts. This self righteousness has reared its head twice to me. Our neighbour jumped on the bandwagon of snitchers when my daughter - a GP - and in full PPE came to visit with various bits of equipment to measure oxygen levels etc. as we were in the throes of Covid 19 and are apparently clinically vulnerable - one having had a kidney transplant and the other on immunosuppressant drugs for a different reason - and have received the letter - my son in law stayed in the car as they were unable to park outside our house due to another car parked opposite on a public road. This neighbour came out and asked him to move and asked what he was thinking of. I wondered what he would have said if an ambulance had stopped there - luckily we didn’t need one and have both recovered.
The second time was to do with lining up to go into a shop at a garage. I had already checked the queue to find the person with a pram was not going in but this didn’t stop someone coming up and telling me off for queue barging and to wait my turn!! She made an annoying assumption that I had not already consulted with the queue. When people do this are they exposing themselves as the very people who do take advantage? ‘Do as I say not as I do’?

Peardrop50 Sat 09-May-20 16:46:24

Collaborators is the term given to those who consort with the enemy and put others in danger. Flouting the rules and potentially putting others in danger from the hidden enemy is collaboration. Large gatherings and consistent visiting should be reported in my opinion.

CBBL Sat 09-May-20 16:57:55

I'm sad to say that I saw a picture (on facebook) of my cousin having a tea party in the garden. Apart from her immediate family, my (widowed) Uncle was also present. While I haven't been to either home, I know that they do not live together (they have different addresses), I'm 72 and my Uncle must be in his early nineties! Clearly he went from his home to theirs - and although it is in the same part of the city in which they both live, I wish they had not invited him. They could have dropped off food and drink for him just as easily.

Zorro21 Sat 09-May-20 17:02:32

Unfortunately, not only have we a Prime Minister who disobeyed his own instruction not to shake hands, and did, a government who all sat close to each other in Parliament, a Scottish Health expert who disobeyed rules and resigned, Robert Jenrick M.P. who also pottered around to his relatives' home yet is still lecturing us, and Neil Ferguson, Health expert who met up with his mistress and resigned from SAGE. How can the general public be expected to obey the rules when the rule makers don't ?

Jennist Sat 09-May-20 17:11:04

I wonder if it would sink in if coronavirus was referred to as a Plague. Then perhaps people could relate more to what is happening, and previous outbreaks in history

Lucy2 Sat 09-May-20 17:24:39

The best thing we can do now is to get outside and into the sunshine and fresh air with others to build our antibodies and keep our immune systems going. Hiding away will only make you more likely to catching the virus, as has been shown. I applaud these people for taking back their lives, since most of what has been fed to us are lies. I am sick of the word "allow" cropping up in every government decree. The power class is feeling a bit too much power lately and loves keeping us under their thumbs while ruining our economies. Keep reading other than main stream media and you'll see. More deaths have come from the shelter in group than any other (excluding nursing homes)

MissAdventure Sat 09-May-20 17:33:34

I've been out in the fresh air.
I had to come in because my neighbour came back from her daughter's, and stopped to chat.

GrumpyGran8 Sat 09-May-20 18:11:00

Lucy-2
You are so wrong about "building up antibodies". The coronavirus is new and there's no vaccine, so falling ill with it is cdurrently the only way to develop antibodies against it.
And do you realise how selfish you sound? If you catch the virus, you may be lucky enough not to be killed by it - provided you are not immunocompromised or have an underlying health condition such as cancer. Yes, the elderly and sick are most at risk of dying, but do you want to be responsible for for killing your granddad, or your friend's mother who is being treated for cancer, or your asthmatic neighbour? In any case, being young and healthy does not guarantee survival.
You talk about "taking back control of our lives", when in reality you're gambling with others' lives. sad

Jishere Sat 09-May-20 19:02:13

I don't think it's the case of anyone being a spy it's just blatantly obvious that lots are not following the rules and when you see it it's hard to grasp their mentality. In fact its very sad but this government haven't really tried to enforce there rules and police have enough to deal with, with parks getting busy and seaside visits. Just be thankful you are you and you are not selfish like some but care enough to continue being and acting in a safe way.

Ara Sat 09-May-20 19:13:59

my goodness. dont you have anything better to do that gawp, and nose at what other people are up to and how many people are coming to their house? I know were in lockdown and life can be a bit monotanous at the moment, but seriously you need to focus on your own lives.Let them worry about their own.

MissAdventure Sat 09-May-20 19:34:24

Nope.
Nothing better to do at all.

magshard20 Sat 09-May-20 19:44:50

People congregate over here and flaunt the law because they know they can get away with it ! Our police have been decimated over the last 10 years, by this government, they don't have the manpower these days to be in the right place at the right time. I do think that large fines should be given out and should be followed up, not allowed to lapse because no one to make sure payment is made. The NHS is very close to my families heart, I worked in the organisation for over 30years (in an admin role, but just as important as docs and nurses). My D-I-L is a nurse, works with dementia patients but at the moment moved from ward to ward to cover shortages and illness. I want her to stay safe for her own health and that of my son and granddaughter. If lockdown is shortened when Boris speaks tomorrow, I hate to think what the outcome will be.

Decembergirl Sat 09-May-20 20:10:56

Just read a post about 12 drunken people in A&E last night. Nurses subjected to these people as they did CT scans and plastered broken limbs and bandaged heads. So they put the NHS at risk. VE Day was clearly A great excuse to party and get drunk - rather than saluting the heroes who gave them the freedom to put lives at risk. So A&E will clearly revert to
this sort of thing. These people should pay a big fine. It would be great if something robust were put in place to deal with these drunken idiots now during this huge time of change. Surely there’s a solution??

sazz1 Sat 09-May-20 20:25:47

So fed up with self righteous creeps running to police to report everyone.
The way I see it is if you want to break the rules do so. If you get caught pay the fine. I'm staying in keeping me and my OH safe. That's our choice. We're social distancing when out on our long walk with the dogs. No we don't report anyone as we aren't paid police officers - that's their job. Besides we don't know others circumstances. Like my sister's neighbours friend who took an overdose the other week. She had 4 visitors to kick the door in, ring an ambulance and relatives to take the children somewhere safe while she recovered TG. Like the caravan site that locals here think is full of holiday makers. It's actually full of NHS staff staying away from home to keep family safe. And let's remember NHS workers choose their job. They are not conscripted or forced to work in a hospital. But I'm really glad they do in these difficult times

Jishere Sat 09-May-20 21:01:29

Let's not forget I'm sure there is alot of NHS workers who would rather not be working at this moment, yet there conscious makes them go in. So whether they choose it or not they haven't got a choice but everybody else as!!! So stick to the rules there is a reason.You shouldn't quote self righteous creeps Sazzl because you sounded self righteous yourself at the end of your comment.

MayBee70 Sat 09-May-20 21:29:52

I don't think any NHS worker knowingly signed up for this. And, if they did I they would have assumed that they would be given adequate protection to keep them safe.

grannyrebel7 Sat 09-May-20 21:43:01

My neighbour was telling at 2 metre distance that she heard about someone who had been fined 9 times for breaking the lockdown! Apparently he said that he didn't care and would do it again. Probably someone who wouldn't pay the fines either. A few nights in the cells should sort these people out.

Brit Sat 09-May-20 22:23:58

People wonder why we have the second highest death rate!
In some countries people are being beaten with sticks for ignoring the stay at home rules! Is that really what it takes ?
It’s actually disgusting how selfish and self centred people can be, especially when so many are losing their lives having to go out to work in frontline services.