Vaccination misinformation

On another note, a caller to James O'Brien this morning suggested that the people less likely to obey the rules and to wear masks etc were more likely to be Brexiteers. Par for the course, given that the right wing in America refuse to wear masks because it affects their freedom of choice!

Srry first sentence should have read 'treatment and care for those with the more virulent attacks has improved enormously. So much more knowledge about this treatment and care, and that is the way to go.

Well said Franbern while not shielding as such, I've been very careful throughout till today when I ventured into shops. Left disappointed and worried about having been too close to people. Masks still not mandatory in shops let's hope they'll be soon.

We all need to take notice of these local outbreaks, packing and picking operations, these are young people, living and working in close quarters. Pretty much the same as the cruise ship epidemics, if there is enough virus circulating for long enough nobody is safe.

We are going to need to keep our distance and wear masks for a long time yet!.

I think we must remain positive and believe that a vaccine will be found. Scientists all over the world are working on this so surely something will be discovered to combat this scourge on our society. I'm a glass half full type of person though.

I don’t think a vaccine based on stimulating an antibody immune response will be effective. There is evidence emerging that even people who have had the virus may not show long term immunity - possibly only months.

More promising is T-cell immunity.

Furret
You must have seen/heard/read the same things I’ve seen. T-call immunity appears to be very important re finding both immunity in individuals and a vaccine.
Also antibodies are often not seen or apparently developed in patients of Covid19 but they may have good immunity via their T-cell immunity. It’s all new, scientists are working very hard to give us a vaccine. I hope they’ll succeed.

T-cells also decline with age which is the major factor in response to Covid-19 and death rates.

Of course I hope that there will be some kind of vaccine. I just get a bit cross when we read headlines about some breakthrough being imminent, only for hopes to be dashed yet again. The reality is that there's unlikely to be anything for many months or years.

Meanwhile, we have to manage the situation we're in and I agree with others about the measures we need to take. Like many others, I'm vulnerable and really want to avoid risk wherever possible.

I'm not cowering behind my sofa nor am I going to brush it all off and say "what will be is what will be" and ignore the risks. As individuals we can't control much, but we do have some control over our owns actions. Like many others, I choose not put myself at risk and I don't want to put others at risk either.

This is the wrong thread, but I get cross when I read about people saying stuff like "we can't go on like this forever" and "we need to get business/education restarted". Yes, all are true, but not at any price.