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MawB

Merlot as I read it the cases in Craven Arms were travellers at a travellers’ campsite rather than holidaymakers.
Try not to worry!

Well, they won't have gone in there

MawB

GagaJo

Grandson and I are self isolating. We were going out to unpopulated places but cars out of action so even that's stopped.

Daughter was supposedly social distancing but wasn't. She is isolating now.

I don’t understand why you are self-isolating unless you have been in contact with someone who has tested positive.

There’s such a thing as over anxiety - can’t you just exercise your own judgement and common sense.

There was a good article the other day about COVID related hypochondria. When I find it I’ll post a link.

I have to take risks for work Maw, so don't add any extra. I'm not overly paranoid. I will go to the local corner shop or for an evening walk. But not much else. I've got a few risk factors so am being very careful.

To my mind, its checks and balances. I'll be on a plane back to work in 2 weeks. That's a BIG risk.

Merlot as I read it the cases in Craven Arms were travellers at a travellers’ campsite rather than holidaymakers.
Try not to worry!

Found it.
Yesterday’s DT
Steep increase in hypochondria
Coronavirus has triggered a rise in health anxiety, a new study has found, after lockdown and global uncertainty significantly affected mental health. The increase was even more prevalent among the most vulnerable groups.

The research, done by the University of Bath and published in the journal American Psychologist, is the first to examine people’s coping styles in the face of the Covid-19 pandemic

Previous studies have estimated that between four and six per cent of the general population have health anxiety, also known as hypochondria, a condition which causes people to worry so much about being or becoming ill that it can take over their life

The research concluded that around one in three (37.5 per cent) reached clinical levels for at least one of three conditions – anxiety, depression and hypochondria, slightly higher than rates seen after previous pandemics.

Dr Hannah Rettie, from the University of Bath’s department of psychology, said: “These results have implications as we [help] people distressed by these challenging [times] ”

I agree with your post, Hetty. I have my doubts about DD's test result because she had an appointment at her GP surgery about 36 hrs before she became ill - a possible source of infection.

A week before that they stopped off at Craven Arms in Shropshire on their way home from holiday in Wales. The next day I read that 21 people had tested positive at a caravan park there. They didn't go into the park but had coffee at a visitors' centre.

TBH I was amazed that she tested negative. Hopefully it is correct because she is insisting she's OK now and not to worry, Mum!

GagaJo

Grandson and I are self isolating. We were going out to unpopulated places but cars out of action so even that's stopped.

Daughter was supposedly social distancing but wasn't. She is isolating now.

I don’t understand why you are self-isolating unless you have been in contact with someone who has tested positive.

There’s such a thing as over anxiety - can’t you just exercise your own judgement and common sense.

There was a good article the other day about COVID related hypochondria. When I find it I’ll post a link.

Thankfully, DD's test has come back negative but that now begs the question, what is she suffering from?

Diarrhoea and stomach cramps obviously point to a bug or food poisoning but she and her DH ate the same food on Friday and he's been fine.

The high temperature, weakness, sore throat and headache pointed to Covid, that's why she ordered a test but thankfully it's not that (according to the test result)

She's feeling a little better today so maybe it was a bug that's done its worst. I've suggested she contact her GP because she had an appointment at the surgery the day before she became ill so she might have picked up or even passed on something there.

At least she is now on the mend. Phew!!

Grandson and I are self isolating. We were going out to unpopulated places but cars out of action so even that's stopped.

Daughter was supposedly social distancing but wasn't. She is isolating now.

Why do people put so much faith in the test results?

'The test is not 100% accurate; at present it is thought to detect approximately 70% of coronavirus infections.

A negative test does not mean that you stop self-isolating if you have coronavirus symptoms.'

(https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/working-for-us/staff/documents)

merlotgran hoping the test comes back negative ?

merlotgran, please let us know when your daughter's test result arrives. Here's hoping it isn't covid x

One of my great nieces has a daughter who was diagnosed with Kawasaki disease a couple of years ago. Very sad, as it is a lifetime condition - can be managed, but not cured.
The whole family did contract Covid19 back in April, all (including this little girl) recovered very easily and well.

There still does seem to be the reaction of 'We are all going to die' about his panademic. Yes, it does appear to be highly contageous, but has a low morbitity rate.

Bubbles were meant to give people living by themselves (or just wth a child/children under 18 yrs), the opportunity to ease their isolation. Your Bubble family means that you count as part of that family group, can cuddle (if you wish), stay overnight, etc.

DD2 is awaiting the results of tests for Covid. She also has no sense of taste or smell. She says her nose feels like all her nasal hairs are stuck together.

Early Saturday morning she woke up with a high temperature and diarrhoea. To begin with she thought it must be a stomach bug but unable to get out of bed with extreme fatigue, she arranged a test for her and her DH. We've been very worried about her all weekend.

She is feeling slightly better today although now has a sore throat. Her DH's test has come back negative but hers hasn't turned up yet.

I'm very worried and everything is crossed.

Good luck Gaga. Have your daughter or grandson been anywhere else? Have you? Time to start thinking it through

GagaJo

Daughter has now lost her sense of taste and smell and both she and grandson have upset stomachs. I don't know if that is on the list of symptoms here, but my friends in China relate it as a symptom. Typical that my car is out of action so we can't do a drive thru test. We've ordered postal tests instead.

Hope it all goes well for you.

BibiSarah

*People” don’t know what they are talking about In that case!
So please come back and explain what the problem is with driving you own child in your own car.!?*

I replied to a previous poster without seeing your post. You seem very angry and its why I would have ignored you even I had seen it. You don't get to summons people for a reply even if you do say please - the exclamation marks and multiple full stops in a post are generally more of an indication of the poster than any pretence of politeness.

I think Im inclined to forget at times Im not posting locally and people aren't aware of situations in different parts of the world but I'm going to make more of an effort from now on to help people with their understanding.

It's obviously been very wrong of me to think people will be aware that not all posters live in the UK and perhaps things are done differently in different parts of the world.

Not angry at all ! Just bewildered.
Not a summons at all just a request ...note the word “please”

At least you'll know then. It may not be, there are plenty of other bugs around and some do have loss of smell as a symptom.?

I hope they get better soon.

Daughter has now lost her sense of taste and smell and both she and grandson have upset stomachs. I don't know if that is on the list of symptoms here, but my friends in China relate it as a symptom. Typical that my car is out of action so we can't do a drive thru test. We've ordered postal tests instead.

The woman's children are hugely unlikely to pick up the virus at nursery. Pretty sure there is no record at all of any child passing on the disease to a parent. You too have taken risks, travelling. If you have then isolated yourself for 2 weeks then fair enough. If not, isn't it a case of pot/kettle? I do hope the tests come back negative - but people still get colds, with nothing sinister about them. My husband had one last week. It was just a cold! Good luck. x

GagaJo

Thanks Lucca. I've developed a cough and headache, but obviously not from daughter's friend as she's tested negative. Could be psychodynamic. I'm neurotic at the best of times.

Gagajo around 8 children in every 100,000 develop Kawasaki disease each year in the UK. It has been around for quite a long time pre-COVID and is quite rare.

Children who may catch COVID are more than likely to have it mildly or be symptomless.

They have tested negative.

Don't panic. Just make sure he eats well and gets plenty of fresh air and take sensible precautions. You don't want him to pick up on your anxiety, he doesn't know what's happening around him, thank goodness.
Turn handwashing etc into a game.

*People” don’t know what they are talking about In that case!
So please come back and explain what the problem is with driving you own child in your own car.!?*

I replied to a previous poster without seeing your post. You seem very angry and its why I would have ignored you even I had seen it. You don't get to summons people for a reply even if you do say please - the exclamation marks and multiple full stops in a post are generally more of an indication of the poster than any pretence of politeness.

I think Im inclined to forget at times Im not posting locally and people aren't aware of situations in different parts of the world but I'm going to make more of an effort from now on to help people with their understanding.

It's obviously been very wrong of me to think people will be aware that not all posters live in the UK and perhaps things are done differently in different parts of the world.

Bibisarah What on earth is wrong with someone driving a child in a car, whether to get them to sleep, or for any other reason?

I think I perhaps didn't explain the situation properly.

We don't live in the Uk and whilst we had a lockdown situation it wasn't that strict and as long as people followed very simple guidelines from the government we were pretty much left to personal responsibility. So for eg one person (the same person) from a family could go to the supermarket whilst wearing a mask and gloves but Emily would berate people for doing so because according to her they should be using online services. They shouldn't be going out at all. It just wasn't necessary. Everyone should be staying at home full stop - unless you were Emily and you wanted to get your wee one to sleep. And if it took half an hour or 45 minutes of driving around and you having to stop at a petrol station to get a bottle of water because you hadn't taken any with you then so be it. That was ok.

I understood why she was driving around to get her wee one to sleep but she really should have had the sense to not berate other people for going out/to the shops, as well as for other choices they'd made all within the guidelines.

No, it's not guilt. I mostly financially support my daughter and GS with my work, so I obviously have nothing to feel guilty about. If I didn't work, their lives would be very different to the way they are now. For most people work IS essential.

Yes, my flying does put me at risk. I'm aware of that. I do everything I can to reduce it, but it's still there. That is an essential risk though. No way around it. I don't take any other risks. And given my financial support, I don't think it's too much to at least socially distance (which she admitted she wasn't doing).

But yes. All OK for now. And I'm gone again soon, so the risks she takes after that are her business.

Nanapat1 - I was wondering the same and so Quizqueen has a very valid point.
Gagajo - please calm down and stop panicking - likely as not you are more at risk from your work than you are from your daughter and her contacts - - or is it guilt that’s making you react like this ?

I think we are all in danger of becoming neurotic, if we weren't already!