Vaccinations from next week

MayBee70

Do you think Fauci is trying to give reasons as to why the Moderna vaccine wasn’t authorised until after the election. Is there criticism from Republicans that they deliberately slowed things down. I’m just thinking out loud by the way.

Could be, but I’m not sure why he felt the need to comment at all tbh, presumably he was asked by a media bod?

Whitewavemark2

Alegrias2

I apologise WWM2. You are right, I didn't understand your post, my fault. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

???have an excellent day!

The other thing is I am very bad at posting as I think of stuff without being entirely clear what I am thinking etc if you know what I mean, as I often find that folk get the wrong message which is entirely my fault.

You need to ask me to be clearer ??

I'll hold your feet to the fire WWM

I think we can all agree that we are happy that there is a vaccine sooner than we expected and that the signs are good. What I hope we* do not agree on* is the way the government have handled the announcements and have taken credit for something which is an international effort. The stupidity of Williamson et al with their nonsense about Britain being better than everywhere else in the world, or whatever nonsense it was, is embarrassing for all of us.

My point exactly, the news media here are rife with cartoons and comments about the UK Education Minister who's understanding of the truth seems based on xenophobia and fantasy.
Embarrassing, actually quite glad that we are still in lockdown until the 1st of February, vaccinations from the 5th of January then some time to see how it goes.

I too will be having it as soon as it is available to me. Unfortunately many people today have no memory of the horrors of polio and the long term damage that Measles did. I think when the Oxford vaccination is approved that it will be the big game changer as it is easier to store and does not require extreme cold storage.

I think it goes without saying that Williamson behaved like a prat.

Those longing for the days before our EU membership, will be heartened to hear if the proposed airlifts into the U.K. of the vaccine.

It will be like the Berlin airlifts in reverse.

How wonderful, we have managed to go back to the early 50s that should satisfy the most ardent little Englander.

I think the patient named William Shakespeare (and actually from Warwick!) should have been the first to be vaccinated this morning instead of 2nd, just because of his name. Today will go down in history anyway, but with "William Shakespeare of England" the first in the world to be vaccinated would have been a good headline, don't you think?

Just an observation .... the nurse giving Margaret's jab didn't wear an apron or gloves, whereas the one in the picture with Boris at Guys did. I've looked at other places and they seem to have varying standards? Is that ok?

I'm confused. This has been such exciting news. However, Dr Hilary Jones said in TV today re the lady getting the vaccine 'It won't stop her getting Covid and it won't necessarily stop her from passing it on but it will hopefully protect her from the worst symptoms and hospitalisation'. Is that how everyone understands it?

Yes, that is what has been explained. So far, they can't say that it will completely stop people getting it, but it has been shown to make it less awful. Every little helps!

Oh thanks Elegran. I've misunderstood it. I thought we were all saved!

Surely it only works if you get it? Then your body thinks aha I recognise this. I know how to fight it. Then rushes out to do just that.

Lucca Waiting to see what happens once the vaccines have been in use for a while is not a case of being selfish. It is simply our right to decide for ourselves when, and if we want to take the risk of a vaccine which so far has only been tested by the manufacturer.
We don’t contest your right to take the vaccine so why should you be aggressive about those who wish to wait.
I am very much pro vax,...... with tried and independently tested products.

As alegrias has said on another thread ...let’s ban the phrase “I’m not anti vax, but....”
I’m not trying to be particularly aggressive Esspee, I just happen to feel strongly about this.

Waiting to see what happens once the vaccines have been in use for a while is not a case of being selfish. It is simply our right to decide for ourselves when, and if we want to take the risk of a vaccine which so far has only been tested by the manufacturer.

Fair enough, Esspee

But what if everyone did that?

We could all decide it's our right to wait

We'd be in a bit of a mess then

I am truly curious as to how long people are going to wait. A week? A month? A year? Until one of us guinea pigs develops gills?

I think it’s a mistake to wait, as you won’t be able to just jump back into the queue when it suits you, and because of the life of the vaccines once they are gone you may have to wait until next winter’s flu vaccine season. That’s fine if you’re prepared to continue to live a half life for another year of course, your choice.

As the vaccine doesn’t prevent you from catching Covid19 I expect that for the vulnerable, with or without the vaccine, life won’t be changing very much in the next year or two.
It is worrying how many people are expecting the vaccine to protect them from catching the virus when it has been made clear that it helps your immune system respond to it.

*Anyone here remember the mass polio vaccination?

this is a thread posted on dec 8th about the 1949/50s outbreak of polio and the iron lungs. I was a child and remember having the jab! different from this thread but you may want to take a look.

I remember it. The pictures of children in leg braces, and even worse, people in iron lungs, were hard to forget.

Alegrias2

I am truly curious as to how long people are going to wait. A week? A month? A year? Until one of us guinea pigs develops gills?

Would gilled guinea pigs make good pets, I wonder?

You're going to be implanted with a micro-chip, so at least you'll be able to find your way home if you don't have a satnav!

Esspee

As the vaccine doesn’t prevent you from catching Covid19 I expect that for the vulnerable, with or without the vaccine, life won’t be changing very much in the next year or two.
It is worrying how many people are expecting the vaccine to protect them from catching the virus when it has been made clear that it helps your immune system respond to it.

No, it won't eradicate the risk completely. However, at a national level, it should reduce the number of people who become seriously ill and need hospitalisation. That will reduce pressure on the NHS. As others have pointed out, some people haven't been getting treatment for other serious conditions, so hopefully the NHS will be able to function normally.

People who have had the jab will still need to take precautions, but it will reduce risk. Together with other risk-reducing measures and living in a low infection area, it will mean that the risk is reduced to a level people can live with. Risk of anything can never be reduced to absolute zero.

I was going to say “ It’s not over yet”but apparently that is forbidden so l will just agree totally with Esspee....