Coronavirus Christmas - oops I may have seriously upset SiL!

Taliya

I think that's quite cruel of ypou. People living alone have really suffered during this Pandemic and being sociable and having social contact is more important in my book but that's just my opinion because I disagree with a lot of what this government has done .

Loneliness can be overcome, death from Covid cannot! I despair at your rediculous self centred attitude Taliya! Little wonder that deaths are rising with stupid individuals like you disregarding the advice on staying safe! Totally irresponsible!

What a silly woman. That’s why the COVID cases are high. I would have told her if she sees other people we can’t have her as we keep to the rules, it was her choice.

I am not accustomed to telling lies, Callistemon. I was brought up to tell the truth. I am not surprised by your comments I just feel sad for you as all I want to do is try to help people. So many people are being drawn in to behavioural psychology.
A comment from someone who is aware of the evil that is really happening (hiding behind Covid) sums things up nicely............

"The Illumination of Conscience will soon arrive for ALL on earth. God will show us our entire life as He sees it in this frightful encounter. You will know God exists."
How very true - I hope it happens soon!

I’m quite shocked that someone would call you cruel on here daftbag, your SiL was behaving rudely and irresponsibly and you did exactly the right thing and tbh more fool all those people she planned on having a cuppa with !

It doesn’t actually matter whether we agree with the government or not, like the rest of the world, we are following scientific advice, as I’m neither a scientist or a conspiracy theorist, I too will follow the rules ! I know someone who sadly died, no health reasons and I get early 60s, my cousin and her husband are both very unwell with it and both in 50s and two colleagues of mine, again early 50s are both still recovering and have long Covid! Despite those who disagree, this is a contagious nasty virus ! Roll on the vaccine !

NannyC2

I am not accustomed to telling lies, Callistemon. I was brought up to tell the truth. I am not surprised by your comments I just feel sad for you as all I want to do is try to help people. So many people are being drawn in to behavioural psychology.
A comment from someone who is aware of the evil that is really happening (hiding behind Covid) sums things up nicely............

"The Illumination of Conscience will soon arrive for ALL on earth. God will show us our entire life as He sees it in this frightful encounter. You will know God exists."
How very true - I hope it happens soon!

Have you some thoughts of your own rather than all these things you’ve heard from somewhere else?
When did God pop into the equation ?

Don’t feel guilty Daftbag1. As someone wiser than me once said 'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.'

Lucca and Callistemon my thoughts exactly!

I see where you're coming from now, NannyC2

What one person believes to be the truth could, of course, be scientifically dismantled by others who do not believe it.

Comment for NannyC2

My cousin is a hospital consultant in a large City Hospital, my god-daughter is a Sister in a large London Hospital, my next door neighbour is a nurse, her partner is a paramedic, I have two friends working in ICU and another is a domiciliary carer, without exception they are overstretched and working long shifts, I have spoken with all of them due to large amount of conspiracy theory beliefs and misinformation spread via social media, not one of them has been asked to “lie” or “exaggerate” COVID cases, nor have been told at any point not to discuss COVID in general. I’m aware a 111 operator in Cornwall was suspended then resigned for stating that as Cornwall wasn’t overwhelmed, which is true, very few cases there, that meant COVID didn’t spread across the UK and was made up.

Unless you have actually heard these facts from the NHS individual yourself, I would not be repeating hearsay or gossip !

Callistemon

I see where you're coming from now, NannyC2

What one person believes to be the truth could, of course, be scientifically dismantled by others who do not believe it.

I’m not entirely sure where either of you are coming from, but it’s a place I think I should avoid !

Well said everyone else, I completely agree x

You may have done the right thing Daftbag1 as most people on here seem to agree with you. But don't expect your SIL to forgive you for withdrawing a Christmas Day invitation on Christmas Eve. I certainly wouldn't. I'm with Taliya.

Please don’t feel guilty
You are totally right. I wish we had a system which made people carry cards
I am a rule breaker and do not expect a hospital bed !!!
It may stop the blatant disregard for the rules

I just wish everyone would be sensible and do the right thing for the sake of others. Our daughter has a very serious heart condition and needs tests and surgery urgently. DH and are both vulnerable and can’t even see her to give her a hug.It breaks my heart when people ignore the rules. Can’t they see the damage they are doing to the NHS who can’t treat the ones who desperately need their help in other ways than COVID.
Sorry for the rant.

Of course you did the right thing, and certainly shouldn't feel guilty. People like this are selfish, and somehow think they are above the rules. I know several so-called intelligent people who are like this and it makes my blood boil. Lets hope people don't go beserk on New Year's Eve.

But she seriously upset YOU. Think of it like that...not the other way round.

With any luck, Daftbags's SiL will have one of those "Illuminations of Conscience" that NannyC2 is hoping for, and realise just what a wally she is being, going from house to house potentially carrying the virus with her like Typhoid Mary.
Perhaps it will work the other way round, and she will pick it up herself on her tour, but not pass it on to anyone else? At least Daftbag and her family won't be infected - they have been forewarned.

Well done for sticking to the rules, even if it did offend her. Someone needed to tell her that is that sort of attitude which keeps the virus spreading and has contributed to many of us being inside with little social contact for most of the year. Obviously nor concern or respect for anyone else sadly.

You did the right thing,thank goodness as now you are safer———post Covid I think people will be re-evaluating some friendships,I never realized how selfish some people are as a retired health care worker I’m amazed at the complete lack of respect some have shown to frontline workers,it’s very unsettling and saddening.

Daftbag1, Hetty and all the others, take a look at today's tally of new infections, and KNOW that you were correct to keep you and your family safe.

Well done to you i say for standing up to her! I would no longer want to be in her bubble either! I have a cleaner, as i can no longer stand and do floors, and she mentioned one of her other clients had cancelled as she was 'going down south to see her family' (before xmas) and she usually goes often apparently- i was wary of having cleaner in my house if she'd been to hers- but as shes not been to that client for over 2 weeks im still letting her come to mine- but next time im not so sure. Its other fools that are endangering everyone, not just themselves.why cant they see that??

It doesnt sound like the OP's SiL was going to be lonely on xmas day does it? And im sure the 'mince pie' could have been extended to a bit of lunch, to fill the gap.And she seems to have had more company than OP and her husband. So i shouldnt worry over her too much.?

Daftbag you are right. Well done for taking a stand. I, too, have had to put up with snide comments from friends and even family since March implying dh and I are 'being ridiculous' and 'taking it too far'.

My DD is single and spends lots of time in different people's houses. Unfortunately, as she is a paramedic she has no choice.
Taliya she would like nothing better than to be able to be home on her own. I can't believe you think having social contact is more important than keeping yourself and everybody else safe and well.

I think what sass1 says is sensible. There is no self righteousness in what she writes - just concern, kindness and common sense. Lockdowns don’t seem to work and cause devastation to so many jobs. If you can find any article on the subject of Covid by Jonathan Sumption, it might give an interesting and rational perspective on our present situation. Don’t get me wrong - I have been careful in spite of contracting Covid in March and recovering after quite a long time. Therefore, I feel safer and am not fearful. Roll on the vaccine- it will be the only way out - goodness knows how much damage has been done to our lives and economy- I am fearful of that.

Definitely you did the right thing Daftbag. Brave of you too as it involved a family member.

It isn’t just the ‘irresponsible young ‘uns’ mixing & disregarding the rules. I think many over 60y are at it.

A friend in Wales rang me on Christmas Eve. Her neighbour aged 62y had invited his partner over to stay ‘for Christmas ‘ ie not just the one day. And also another friend with her daughter were joining them ... from London!

I said to my friend I thought Mr Drakeford would be at the border with a pitchfork!

Anyway, she’s keeping her distance although isn’t reporting her neighbour as she said once they’ve all gone home (this weekend - after NYD!) she doesn’t want any awkwardness.

I think there’s more of this going on than we like to acknowledge - in ALL age groups.