Today's briefing.

Humming MissA or Umming ????

Not watching but just had a vision of very load humming like a load of angry bumble bees.

loud not load ...duh.

Oh! My phone changed my um to a hum.

JVT looked extremely serious and worried.

The schools in our Borough and surrounding areas are not reopening MissA, that will be more teenagers hanging around parks etc.

The scariest message was that they just don't know and won't know for a few months.

I just really hope that people now realise how very serious the situation is right now.

Here in London, nobody should be socialising or making any unnecessary trips!

Yes, grannygravy.
We're one of the worst areas, from what I can tell.
We must focus on the vaccine.

I do wish Boris wouldn’t give prospective ‘dates’ for when things may be better.

April 5th or thereabouts?

I wish he would just say, ‘We really don’t know, the more you follow the guidelines, the sooner it will be’.

They just can’t say for certain. They’re scientists so can’t say anything without the relevant data which they don’t have yet. I’m sure that the vaccine will prevent transmission and I’m the worlds worst pessimist.

MissA yep we are fifth in the UK

Too many uncertainties, I’m pro the vaccine, but there are many questions.
The SA variant of the virus has heat to be investigated and there’s no certainty that after being vaccinated, you would not be a carrier.
Although, apparently the vaccine can be quickly redesigned to accommodate the virus mutations.
Once again, I feel we’re in for a long haul.

J52 You can't be a carrier as you have not had the virus injected into you, just a small bit of its RNA, enough for your immune system to recognise it and attack it if and when it invades in the future - its RNA, not its DNA.

Elegran

J52 You can't be a carrier as you have not had the virus injected into you, just a small bit of its RNA, enough for your immune system to recognise it and attack it if and when it invades in the future - its RNA, not its DNA.

Maybe so, but you could still catch it and have a mild dose that you could pass on. That is what JVD (or Chris Whitty - can't remember now) said in response to a question in the briefing. It's another unknown.

Yes doodledog I think JVT said you would still be a potential "hazard" in the community, so don't expect to go to the bingo!

But that is no different to passing it on if you had a mild dose of it without being vaccinated. What J52 posted was that you might pass it on after vaccination - implying that the vaccination might cause you to be a carrier.

You've only got to look how many died during the Spanish 'flu pandemic and this one's more lethal because of the variant.
Innoculation doesn't stop you from getting Covid.

this one's more lethal because of the variant
Do you have a reference for that ev?
From what I’ve read, the scientists think it’s more transmissible (but they don’t know for certain) and there’s no evidence that the case fatality rate is any higher.

50million people died in the 1918 Pandemic, when the world’s population was one-fifth of what it is now, so let’s try and keep things in proportion.
That was in reply to ev

Apologies I did not make myself clear, I didn’t mean you would carry the virus having been vaccinated, but that you could still catch it thus pass it on.

I do so agree that Boris and his chums should stop pronouncing dates; and blowing trumpets "The best Test and Trace System" etc. and just say that they do not know how tings will pan out. We all know that, so why don't they just say it? Do they think we are totally stupid?

GrannyGravy13

JVT looked extremely serious and worried.

The schools in our Borough and surrounding areas are not reopening MissA, that will be more teenagers hanging around parks etc.

Which is safer for them than being in classrooms.

MissAdventure

Yes, grannygravy.
We're one of the worst areas, from what I can tell.
We must focus on the vaccine.

That's a two-edged sword. If people think the vaccine will solve everything, the situation will get worse. What everybody really needs to concentrate on is social distancing and preventing transmission as far as possible by wearing a mask and being in well-ventilated spaces and not seeing other people in person.

75% of indoor transmission takes place in household settings, including family members and visiting people from other households or receiving guests. Education settings are the second most frequent place of transmission. Put the two together and the result is disastrous.

Calendargirl

I do wish Boris wouldn’t give prospective ‘dates’ for when things may be better.

April 5th or thereabouts?

I wish he would just say, ‘We really don’t know, the more you follow the guidelines, the sooner it will be’.

I couldn't agree more. He always reminds me of a parent on a long car journey when the children keep asking "When will we be there?"

I've always been in favour of more rigorous measures, including school closures; even though that makes life even more stressful for me.