Vaccine side effects

My husband will be vaccinated tomorrow. I am clinically extremely vulnerable but have not had any notification of when I will be vaccinated. Once my husband is vaccinated, could he be a carrier and give me Covid before I am vaccinated?

Beachwriter your husband is no more likely to be a carrier of the virus after he is vaccinated than he is now. Both of you just need to keep going with the precautions you have been taking up to now.

I believe that the CEV are in Group 4 so they will be getting to you soon. (Happy to be corrected if anyone knows better)

All the best Beachwriter, I hope you get your vaccination soon.

growstuff

What exactly is "strange" about Alegrias's posts?

Had to very careful with my words, so strange wasn't actually what I wanted to saw. But as you can see my thread and quote on here have been deleted by GNHQ. So clearly I need to put it to Alegi first, before I post anything, to make sure she agrees with my thoughts!

Callistemon

Yogagirl

Emotional manipulation. Do those children, at such a young age, really understand what they are singing about?

My DGC are about the same age and I'm sure even the younger one could explain it to you very clearly and in great detail, Yogagirl

I could get my DGC to sing why they do not want me or any of their family to have this vaccine. If I posted on here it would be deleted. Only one view point allowed!

yogagirl, as you now know, you cannot print or give a link to something that contains misinformation!

Monica Emotional manipulation' rubbish Yogagirl. Children sing what they are told to sing, and give little thought to the words. They are not likely to receive the vaccine anyway

Exactly Monica

Emotional manipulation of me & those listening to the video, not the children. By the way I didn't listen to it again, as it's been sent to me more than 10 times. Can't remember it now, but on the same lines as the rest.

Without a large, randomised clinical trial, with half the participants unknowingly having a placebo, we are never going to know. But in this case, there was not time. Incidentally I was working on women's health when the Pill came out, and was concerned at the many side effects women told me about. It was not until the RCGP report came out some years later that some were validated, but it was not till many years later that they admitted suicides had increased - and that was in an obscure publication, after having dismissed the depression women were reporting. Since then the Pill has changed.

lemsip

yogagirl, as you now know, you cannot print or give a link to something that contains misinformation!

Who says it's misinformation? On what authority do you speak?

It's healthy to analyse what's going on, to be sceptical shows intelligence.

Quotejeanrobinson Mon 18-Jan-21 12:39:25

Yes I remember that Jean

Nothing is reported about the high number of suicides due to this lockdown on the news either. I think we should be told all the data, but were not!

DH 82, had his last week, (Pfizer) and has had no side effects, I'm getting mine on Wednesday, really pleased.

jeanrobinson Without a large, randomised clinical trial, with half the participants unknowingly having a placebo, we are never going to know.

Except that we do know because these trials were carried out. and my DH was one of the trial participants. 25,000 in his trial including over 70s with pre-existing conditions.

How long ago did the pill come in? I started taking it in 1967 and it had been around for sometime then. Innother words you are talking about events, nigh on 60 years ago.

There do seem to be an awful lot of people around who are completely unaware that there have been any changes in medical practice, methods, technology and knowledge over the last 60 years.

The regulatory body would not have given these products a license to go into general use unless this had happened.

Yes Monica and your DH had a heart attack!!

The regulatory body has also waved any legal action to be taken against the manufacturers of the vaccine in cases of death and adverse health reactions!!

Of course we all know great leaps have been made in medical science. You very condescendingly said in one of your post about we think things are the same as 200yrs ago [not those exact words].

I had a heart attack three years ago too and I hadn't been on any clinical trial. I'm not overweight, don't drink alcohol, don't smoke and am careful with my diet. It's just one of those things.

When I was in hospital, there was a lady opposite me, who had had a quadruple bypass. She was slim and a professional yoga teacher.

I have no idea why MOnica's husband had a heart attack - I doubt if he or medics treating him know either. However, there is absolutely no reason to think it was connected to his participation in vaccine trials.

Yogagirl

lemsip

yogagirl, as you now know, you cannot print or give a link to something that contains misinformation!

Who says it's misinformation? On what authority do you speak?

It's healthy to analyse what's going on, to be sceptical shows intelligence.

No, sometimes it shows that people lack the intelligence to understand facts or to understand the bigger picture. Some people are sceptics because they can't accept that they're not different and think they know best.

Drawing a straight line between two events does not prove causation, ask any scientist.

So why do we not get all the facts on the TV News stations growstuff?? That's what worries me the most.

So everything you're told you believe without question growstuff? I'll bet the multitude of scammers about at the moment, are beating a path to your door!

Yoga girl has some more far fetched theories on the Norway thread. Fortunately it seems we all recognise these for what they are,

Yogagirl

So why do we not get all the facts on the TV News stations growstuff?? That's what worries me the most.

I really don't have a clue. I haven't watched TV news programmes for years.

Yogagirl

So everything you're told you believe without question growstuff? I'll bet the multitude of scammers about at the moment, are beating a path to your door!

Strangely enough, they aren't. Maybe it has something to do with not falling for the latest conspiracy theory.

We know very well why DH had his heart attack and he has been working on it for decades.

He was (he has lost a lot of weight) grossly obese and would brook no advice. He got that way over decades of hard work at it. He also has sleep apnea (which can cause heart attacks).

DD and I had been telling him for 10 years he had it but he ignored it until he had a micro sleep on the motorway, then, to be fair, he went straight to the doctor and got help. He is not alcohol dependent, and did sometimes not drink for months, but usually drank more than the recommended weekly amount.

In recent years he has taken very little exercise, mainly, because, as we know now, he had unstable angina, which meant that on some days walking to the end of the garden and back was more than he could manage, although he did manage to do an awful lot of DIY including major projects, which took much longer than planned because of the times he couldn't work because he was so breathless.

He has been a walking heart attack time bomb for years. I knew it, so did both AC, but there was nothing we could do. He is a lovely kind loving man, but he hates facing up to bad news.

If his heart attack was COVID related, he must have foreseen the pandemic back in the 1980/90s and that he would take part in a drug trial and I think thaat even you Yogagirl will find that a bit far fetched.

I am sorry but you know as little of the aeitiology of heart disease as you do of vaccines.

We only discovered yesterday that DH did get the COVID vaccine in the trial and not the alternative and very pleased we are too.

How long do newsreaders have to give us all the news? Could they addan account of each person who had a side effect and whether it was considered to be related, on top of all the disaster and politics they have to spout about ?

I can just imagine it
"Mrs Smith's husband Jim had a headache the day after his vaccination and threw up his sausages and mash that night. Experts say this is a common reaction, isn't serious, and lasts for a very short time."
"John Jones of Cardiff had a heart attack six days after his vaccination. He was 76 and had a history of chest pains, which he had blamed on indigestion. This is not thought to be connected to the vaccine."

All the facts and figures are available if you look for them, collected together in statistics so that you don't have to add up all the individual events and try to see them in perspective.

Yogagirl The account by Monica of her husband's medical condition should remove ONE person from your mental database of People Who Have Been Harmed By The Vaccine. Without getting every last detail about each person who had a "reported side effect" can you now look at the statistics and see that behind each one is a real person with some kind of history. You don't need to be told of each story "on the news" for the statistics to be made up of a lot of individuals (and Monica should not have had to go into all that detail). The totals are shorthand so that we can see the trends.

QuoteM0nica Tue 19-Jan-21 10:54:57

Why on earth was your DH put on a trial with all his severe health problems? I wish him better.

No one knows for sure about these vaccines, neither short or long term! The side effects of many, many drugs are far worse then the illness. Look at chemo for cancer, it takes a terrible toll on the body.