COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day (Zoe Covid Study)

They do - the system is run by Public Health Wales, and they decided there was no added benefit in producing the figures on Saturday. I’d imagine it’s probably a small team of people producing the figures here, and we’ve all got used to it.

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England and overall U.K. figures (less Wales)

To answer earlier comments, without question, COVID-19 is a serious illness that contributes to early death. Thankfully, its impact is significantly lower now that we have vaccines to combat the virus.

The latest update from ONS is here: www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/deaths

It shows that most people dying with COVID-19 as a cause are over 75 and had pre-existing condition of which diabetes was the most common (almost 25% of the total). Hypertension and chronic respiratory diseases are the next most significant.

It also shows that 'excess deaths' are currently still negative.

I do not think there is a strong case for another lockdown now and should one be considered in future, the economic implications and impact on people's mental health and well-being should be weighed in the balance.

I don’t think many of us are calling for a lockdown. I, for one, just want mask wearing to be mandatory in public places and social distancing to be maintained. Possibly mask wearing outside at large public events, football matches, horse racing etc. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for.

We are out and about this weekend staying in York have noticed mask wearing is probably around 15% of people with a little more on buses
I have noticed even though Wales has not stopped wearing them their figures are going higher

MayBee70

I don’t think many of us are calling for a lockdown. I, for one, just want mask wearing to be mandatory in public places and social distancing to be maintained. Possibly mask wearing outside at large public events, football matches, horse racing etc. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for.

Same here!

Cunco

To answer earlier comments, without question, COVID-19 is a serious illness that contributes to early death. Thankfully, its impact is significantly lower now that we have vaccines to combat the virus.

The latest update from ONS is here: www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19latestinsights/deaths

It shows that most people dying with COVID-19 as a cause are over 75 and had pre-existing condition of which diabetes was the most common (almost 25% of the total). Hypertension and chronic respiratory diseases are the next most significant.

It also shows that 'excess deaths' are currently still negative.

I do not think there is a strong case for another lockdown now and should one be considered in future, the economic implications and impact on people's mental health and well-being should be weighed in the balance.

There isn't a strong case for lockdown and, provided simple precautions continue, there won't be a case in the future. Most people aren't claiming that.

I am concerned that you seem to dismiss the deaths of people with diabetes and hypertension. People with either condition can live long, happy, normal lives, if they look after themselves. It's quite insulting to be told that death doesn't really matter because you're expected to die anyway.

Latest cases for the whole of the UK = 41,278
A fall of 12% from yesterday’s figures.
Good news.

The OP has misquoted the headline of the Zoe study. It is headed Could COVID break 100,000 cases per day?, not 'COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day'

I listened to the first 10 minutes or so of Tim Spector's presentation and found it to be very full of ifs and buts and vague assertions, whichI found very disappointing as I have always had a lot of respect for Tim Spector.

Urmstongran

Latest cases for the whole of the UK = 41,278
A fall of 12% from yesterday’s figures.
Good news.

Daily changes aren't very meaningful. Let's wait and see what happens when schools return after the half-term holidays. It was young people who were driving the increase in cases until last week. Hopefully, vaccinations will make a difference.

M0nica

The OP has misquoted the headline of the Zoe study. It is headed Could COVID break 100,000 cases per day?, not 'COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day'

I listened to the first 10 minutes or so of Tim Spector's presentation and found it to be very full of ifs and buts and vague assertions, whichI found very disappointing as I have always had a lot of respect for Tim Spector.

I think it’s unfair to say that if you haven’t listened to the whole thing.

Well 41,278 cases in the last 24 hours cheered me. Less than a football stadium for the whole of our UK. Not many when you think of 70 million people living here. I wonder what percentage that maths is?

It’s not the whole of the UK Urmstongran, Wales doesn’t report Covid numbers on Saturdays.

Urmstongran

Well 41,278 cases in the last 24 hours cheered me. Less than a football stadium for the whole of our UK. Not many when you think of 70 million people living here. I wonder what percentage that maths is?

No thought for those that have died ….?

MayBee70

M0nica

The OP has misquoted the headline of the Zoe study. It is headed Could COVID break 100,000 cases per day?, not 'COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day'

I listened to the first 10 minutes or so of Tim Spector's presentation and found it to be very full of ifs and buts and vague assertions, whichI found very disappointing as I have always had a lot of respect for Tim Spector.

I think it’s unfair to say that if you haven’t listened to the whole thing.

I agree. Prompted by this post, I did listen to the whole video and I thought it was informative and well-balanced. It wasn't scare-mongering in the slightest, but he did explain why there's a discrepancy between the health authorities' reported figures and the ZOE figures, which tend to be more in line with ONS. The ONS figures aren't reported daily, so there's a lag anyway and they tend to be lost because they're "old news" by the time they're reported.

MayBee70

Urmstongran

Well 41,278 cases in the last 24 hours cheered me. Less than a football stadium for the whole of our UK. Not many when you think of 70 million people living here. I wonder what percentage that maths is?

No thought for those that have died ….?

Nah! They're all old and have underlying health conditions anyway. Who cares about them? (Unless you happen to be a grieving relative.)

I wonder how people would react if a medium sized plane crashed every day, killing everybody on board.

PS. Where's the sarcasm emoticon?

Maybee So Urmstongran didn't mention those who have died - so you reach totally unjustifiable conclusions that she doesn't care about those who have died.

It wasn't relevant. This whole discussion is about those who have caught the disease, not those who have died.

You said absolutely nothing about those with Long COVID, but of course you clearly think they do not matter, they are mainly young people and can handle it, even if it does ruin their education and their health for life.

growstuff

MayBee70

Urmstongran

Well 41,278 cases in the last 24 hours cheered me. Less than a football stadium for the whole of our UK. Not many when you think of 70 million people living here. I wonder what percentage that maths is?

No thought for those that have died ….?

Nah! They're all old and have underlying health conditions anyway. Who cares about them? (Unless you happen to be a grieving relative.)

I wonder how people would react if a medium sized plane crashed every day, killing everybody on board.

PS. Where's the sarcasm emoticon?

If only as much concern was shown for the hundreds of folks dying of cancer, heart disease, strokes etc every single day of every single year…

The ONS figures aren't reported daily, so there's a lag anyway and they tend to be lost because they're "old news" by the time they're reported.

Misrepresentation. The ONS results are reported regularly, as soon as they are available. Hardly "lost". They are often the headline report on BBC, SKY etc.

Good points Alegrias and GrannyGravy.

M0nica

Maybee So Urmstongran didn't mention those who have died - so you reach totally unjustifiable conclusions that she doesn't care about those who have died.

It wasn't relevant. This whole discussion is about those who have caught the disease, not those who have died.

You said absolutely nothing about those with Long COVID, but of course you clearly think they do not matter, they are mainly young people and can handle it, even if it does ruin their education and their health for life.

How dare you. My grandson has symptoms of long covid at the moment having caught the virus due to no measures being taken in his school to prevent it and the fact that children of his age weren’t vaccinated before going back to school which is what should have happened. I just hope his symptoms are short lived.

I just watched the whole Spector video. I've contributed to the Zoe app from the start but I'm a bit disappointed in him, really.

Clickbait title - 100,000 on his model (and it is a model) is a different measure to the 100,000 that Javid was talking about. Did Javid say they would take action at 100,00 cases or is that something Tim thought would be useful to say, that would help his case?

He actually said "realise that we can bring you the best data". I'll just leave that there with no comment.

He said that part of the problem with some countries in Eastern Europe – the ex Soviet bloc, he calls them which is a bit derogatory – is lower vaccination rates. Lithuania, 67%, Germany 69%.

They’ve been telling the government about the new symptoms, he says, for nearly 600 days. 600 days ago was before the first lockdown started.

Anyway I have more…but my message is, that taking nuggets of information from YouTube videos will get us nowhere. But I’m probably just an unquestioning peasant.

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MayBee70, I have an opinion as well as anybody else. And mine is based on actually listening to what he said, rather than thinking oh look he's a professor on YouTube, he must be right.

Sarcasm isn't a good look but of course attacking a poster's character in an attempt to undermine them is all the rage at the moment, isn't it?

Don’t worry. My comments will be removed by HQ. And, quite frankly it’s bad enough having to deal with the pandemic without having to read some of the stuff on here…..sick to my teeth with all of it…..