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COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day (Zoe Covid Study)

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PippaZ Fri 29-Oct-21 13:01:30

With the Government refusing to implement a plan this weeks video gives us what we can do for ourselves.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc7A1bVuSJU

Alegrias1 Sun 31-Oct-21 11:52:57

They'll only be removed if somebody reports them. Me, I prefer to leave comments up so that people can see what others have posted.

I don't think they are worthy of deletion anyway. They're just rude.

We're all sick to the back teeth, many of us have had friends and relatives who have had the virus, we don't all resort to insults.

PippaZ Sun 31-Oct-21 11:53:52

Message deleted as it quotes a deleted post.

MayBee70 Sun 31-Oct-21 11:55:23

And not everyone follows people around constantly picking fault with everything they post….

Alegrias1 Sun 31-Oct-21 11:57:56

Good grief.

Paranoid, moi?

Katie59 Sun 31-Oct-21 11:58:57

Because serious illness and hospitalization is at a low level relative to pre vaccination levels the government is sticking to vaccination and herd immunity, anyone who refuses vaccination takes their chances, it’s their choice

Many of those that die Covid positive would have contracted the virus because their immune system was poor and would likely have had pneumonia or influenza in previous years.

M0nica Sun 31-Oct-21 12:02:36

Maybee I am not a mind reader. I didn't know your son had long COVID and you didn't know whether anyone in Urmstongrans family had died of COVID

MayBee70 Sun 31-Oct-21 12:07:56

Well I’m actually at breaking point at the moment so I’d appreciate it if some of you just back off for a while. Thanks in advance…..

PippaZ Sun 31-Oct-21 12:13:32

M0nica

The OP has misquoted the headline of the Zoe study. It is headed Could COVID break 100,000 cases per day?, not 'COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day'

I listened to the first 10 minutes or so of Tim Spector's presentation and found it to be very full of ifs and buts and vague assertions, whichI found very disappointing as I have always had a lot of respect for Tim Spector.

It isn't a quote from the article. It was the heading on an email.

You don't want to know; that's fine. I do; that's fine too. There is no superiority in either position so please don't turn 'teacher' on others. Correcting others is not a good look. Correcting others based on misinformation seems to stem from arrogance.

MerylStreep Sun 31-Oct-21 12:18:28

That went well, didn’t it ?

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-Oct-21 13:03:21

MayBee70

Well I’m actually at breaking point at the moment so I’d appreciate it if some of you just back off for a while. Thanks in advance…..

I sincerely hope you feel better soon MayBee70

maddyone Sun 31-Oct-21 13:36:43

When I went to school I was taught that there are 365 days in a year. If Spector is claiming to have been telling the government about the new symptoms of Covid for 600 days, he must have been telling them for approaching two years. Really?

maddyone Sun 31-Oct-21 13:39:13

…attacking a poster’s character in an attempt to undermine them is all the rage at the moment, isn’t it?

Unfortunately, yes it is Alegrias.

MayBee70 Sun 31-Oct-21 14:54:00

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70

Well I’m actually at breaking point at the moment so I’d appreciate it if some of you just back off for a while. Thanks in advance…..

I sincerely hope you feel better soon MayBee70

Thanks. Appreciate that GG13.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-Oct-21 14:58:30

Latest figures for Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland, just waiting for England’s

Daisymae Sun 31-Oct-21 15:07:42

John Campbell here is looking at the inconsistencies in official figures
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hfq9gBkwBE
Makes interesting points. It really does not seem that figures are actually falling.

growstuff Sun 31-Oct-21 15:29:15

Daisymae

John Campbell here is looking at the inconsistencies in official figures
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hfq9gBkwBE
Makes interesting points. It really does not seem that figures are actually falling.

They're not falling. He's right.

growstuff Sun 31-Oct-21 15:31:10

GrannyGravy13

Latest figures for Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland, just waiting for England’s

They're always low on Sundays. Wait until Tuesday and/or look at the weekly averages for a more accurate picture.

growstuff Sun 31-Oct-21 15:33:58

Has anybody else read the JCVI minutes, which have just been released? They confirm that the intention was/is to infect children in an attempt to achieve herd immunity. One member refers to schools as an "opportunity" for children to be infected.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-Oct-21 15:34:07

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Latest figures for Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland, just waiting for England’s

They're always low on Sundays. Wait until Tuesday and/or look at the weekly averages for a more accurate picture.

I look at all the figures growstuff the trend has been downwards for a week now.

growstuff Sun 31-Oct-21 15:39:03

This article in the BMJ gives a possible reason for the recent disparity between the ZOE and official figures:

www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2619

It also explains why Spector thinks there could be nearly 100,000 cases.

growstuff Sun 31-Oct-21 15:40:06

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Latest figures for Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland, just waiting for England’s

They're always low on Sundays. Wait until Tuesday and/or look at the weekly averages for a more accurate picture.

I look at all the figures growstuff the trend has been downwards for a week now.

Which figures do you look at? Cases have been going down, but hospitalisations have been increasing slightly.

growstuff Sun 31-Oct-21 15:45:45

This graph shows the trends in cases and deaths up to yesterday. You can see quite clearly that cases are decreasing slightly, whereas deaths are increasing slightly. It's impossible to draw any firm conclusions. Cases could be decreasing as a result of half-term, but we won't know until children have returned to school. Hopefully, vaccinations in this age group will soon have an effect. If you look more closely at the ages of cases, the group currently most infected are the age of most parents of school age children.

growstuff Sun 31-Oct-21 15:47:16

PS. You can also see that Sunday's reported deaths are always lower than the average.

MayBee70 Sun 31-Oct-21 15:49:59

growstuff

This graph shows the trends in cases and deaths up to yesterday. You can see quite clearly that cases are decreasing slightly, whereas deaths are increasing slightly. It's impossible to draw any firm conclusions. Cases could be decreasing as a result of half-term, but we won't know until children have returned to school. Hopefully, vaccinations in this age group will soon have an effect. If you look more closely at the ages of cases, the group currently most infected are the age of most parents of school age children.

Someone in my village has caught it from a friend who caught it from his school age child. No one knows how yet how many others may have caught it from the social event they attended.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-Oct-21 15:50:12

There has been a lag or 3-4 weeks in mortality rate and hospitalisations since the beginning of the pandemic so if this continues they should begin reducing in the next 10 days or so.