COVID cases on the brink of breaking 100k a day (Zoe Covid Study)

Yes growstuff I am full aware that Sunday and Monday figures tend to me lower, they have been this way since the onset of the pandemic.

*me should be *be

growstuff

Has anybody else read the JCVI minutes, which have just been released? They confirm that the intention was/is to infect children in an attempt to achieve herd immunity. One member refers to schools as an "opportunity" for children to be infected.

I wrote to my MP and accused the government of this. I must dig out her reply and re read it.

I have no comments.

Irresponsibility beyond all words.

I see we're back on aspiration.

GrannyGravy13

Yes growstuff I am full aware that Sunday and Monday figures tend to me lower, they have been this way since the onset of the pandemic.

Indeed! So the figures you posted aren't very meaningful.

Alegrias1

I have no comments.

Irresponsibility beyond all words.

I see we're back on aspiration.

I see we're back to accusing others of not knowing what they're talking about.

My partner is sitting next to me. He's not a member of GN, so I showed him this thread. I won't repeat what he's just said and am gong off to enjoy the rest of the afternoon.

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Yes growstuff I am full aware that Sunday and Monday figures tend to me lower, they have been this way since the onset of the pandemic.

Indeed! So the figures you posted aren't very meaningful.

They are just as meaningful as any other figures posted on GN when taken into context.

In fact that are far more meaningful than the OP 100,000 a day which the U.K. is no where near at this present time.

Good. Have a nice time.

Before you go, maybe you can explain to everyone else on here how the nurse educator is really good at using other people's data and pretending he has something to do with it, has an obsession about aspiration and has suddenly become very defensive about the BBC questioning his veracity.

Then about how people who have built up a reputation are happy to use the data the way they want to to mislead the public about the real situation, and make them think the government are lying to them? While saying that the Zoe data agrees with the ONS data? ONS is government, remember.

No, probably not.

Americanpie

I think, IMHO, that people should stop getting tested so often. Our local council are offering prizes to people getting tested with no symptoms. It's as if the council want the pandemic to continue forever so that it can be used as an excuse for why nothing is being done. Nearly all council workers are still at home and the libraries still haven't fully opened to pre-pandemic hours. The vaccines do not stop anyone from passing the virus on so we have to learn to live with it.

…I think you don’t understand why p
They want people testing.

You know, I think there possibly could be close to 100,000 cases a day in the UK.

Spector uses a different way of measuring cases, and as I said above, its a model. But they are usually pretty accurate. So far, so good.

What really gets up my nose is the implications that then come about missing half the cases because they won't change the description of the symptoms, making policy based on flawed data and especially that health professionals with responsibility and accountability are making decisions for god knows what reason, but knowingly lying to the public.

Made by some nice chap in Cumbria who has a way with Zoom and an obsession with aspiration and Ivermectin. He's not a freedom fighter, he's irresponsible.

he’s not a freedom fighter, he’s irresponsible
I believe he has done untold damage to peoples minds.

He’s been a lifeline to me, my family and many other people over the past twenty months.

Unfortunately one of the downsides of the Covid-19 pandemic is that is has bred many many epidemiology experts armchair and otherwise.

Alegrias1 I have learnt a,lot,from your posts.

No one is an expert in this virus and I don’t think anyone pretends to be. All of us, even the scientists, are learning on the hoof.

Thank you GG13.

I'm not an epidemiologist by any stretch of the imagination, but I know exaggeration and misinterpreted data when I see it.

MerylStreep, I agree with you.

MerylStreep

^he’s not a freedom fighter, he’s irresponsible^
I believe he has done untold damage to peoples minds.

Good grief. How has he damaged people’s minds?

MayBee70
You said that you were at breaking point so I think it’s best that I don’t explain my observations, don’t you?

I do believe that cult following is dangerous, though….

How on earth has Spector damaged people's minds? There are far more worthy candidates for that accusation.

MerylStreep

MayBee70
You said that you were at breaking point so I think it’s best that I don’t explain my observations, don’t you?

I'm not at breaking point, so go on! Explain!

Alegrias1

Thank you GG13.

I'm not an epidemiologist by any stretch of the imagination, but I know exaggeration and misinterpreted data when I see it.

MerylStreep, I agree with you.

But he hasn't exaggerated, has he?

He's commented on a disparity, which was surprising because generally his data has been consistent with the ONS data.So what's happened to knock the two sets of data out of synch?

PS. It's obvious you're not an epidemiologist.

growstuff

How on earth has Spector damaged people's minds? There are far more worthy candidates for that accusation.

Planting ideas about how they should be aspirating vaccinations, when even on here health professionals were showing how it was not useful.

Continually pushing the fact that Ivermectin is worth investigating, when all the studies done so far show it's useless. Hence undermining people's faith in the medical establishment.

Pretending that the BBC report on Ivermectin was biased and incorrect, that the reporters didn't know what they were talking about. Undermining the scientific views about this quack cure.

Now, pretending that the government are lying about the case rate in the UK.

Got any more MerylStreep?

growstuff

How on earth has Spector damaged people's minds? There are far more worthy candidates for that accusation.

I think they think it’s Dr John that’s poisoned people’s minds. Which is probably why I’m a fruitcake at the moment …..

Over 20% of English 12-15 year olds have been vaccinated (sorry, don't have the stats for the other countries), which is good news. Just the other 80% to go ... This should be reflected in case numbers soon.

growstuff

Alegrias1

Thank you GG13.

I'm not an epidemiologist by any stretch of the imagination, but I know exaggeration and misinterpreted data when I see it.

MerylStreep, I agree with you.

But he hasn't exaggerated, has he?

He's commented on a disparity, which was surprising because generally his data has been consistent with the ONS data.So what's happened to knock the two sets of data out of synch?

PS. It's obvious you're not an epidemiologist.

Ouf, I haven't got long enough...