Austria puts unvaccinated into lockdown

Crikey forcing people to have vaccines because they are stupid, that's fairly breathtaking.

Urmstongran

Austria are indeed the first EU country to impose mandatory vaccination. I can’t believe they are doing this.

I read this! I think it's wrong how will they impose that on those who don't wish to be vaccinated. Surely they should encourage rather than impose. Smacks of a police state

What are they going to do - Pin them down?

I'm completely p****ed off with the approach of somebody saying something contentious and then pretending they didn't understand what it meant.

Somebody accused me of double standards this morning and they were right. I agreed with them and moved on. I didn't pretend the world was against me.

Goodness me Alegrias I apologised. Do you want me to wear a hair shirt too?

Sackcloth, ashes and 50 laps round the playing fields without stopping, Urmonstgran!

Then write out 500 times "Just what part of I apologise do you not understand?"

Urmstongran apologies for the typo

That made me chuckle Cali thank you! ?

Apparently the US is also debating mandatory vaccination the move by Austria and others will do nothing to reduce that prospect.
We can’t rule it out in the UK but at present it’s not on the agenda thank goodness.

It’s been reported that Holland, Germany, and Slovakia are also going into lockdown, or partial lockdown, and the unvaccinated can’t eat in restaurants in Germany. There has been some rioting on the streets in Holland overnight.

maddyone

It’s been reported that Holland, Germany, and Slovakia are also going into lockdown, or partial lockdown, and the unvaccinated can’t eat in restaurants in Germany. There has been some rioting on the streets in Holland overnight.

In Germany vaccination passports for hotels and restaurants has been enforced for some time

All countries can say they will do the same as Austria as much as they like, but none of them actually say what they are going to do about those who won't comply. Put them all in prison?

I think they intend to issue them with hefty fines.

There is apparently rioting in Vienna tonight. It’s not going to be easy for the politicians to impose these restrictions, in my opinion.

There have been peaceful protests in Australia this weekend.

I don't see why people should be given the freedom to go about infecting others with a potentially deadly virus.

Normally, I'm all for freedom of choice and against anything compulsory. Still, in present (abnormal) circumstances, I think the unvaccinated (rather than the vulnerable) should have their freedom restricted. Access to bars, restaurants, hotels, air travel, indoor events, gyms and pools etc. isn't necessary for life, after all.

Responsible folk have been vaccinated, not just for their own safety, but for the welfare of others, too. They're less likely to catch the virus. If they do, they're less likely to transmit it:

www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/

I’m not against vaccine passports - had to show ours at the theatre ( London) .

Cannot believe what Austria is doing. How are they going to enforce compulsory vaccination?
Kick in doors, pin people down and inject them? This has serious human rights issues.

There are people with a genuine reason for not wanting the vaccine who are not stupid.
My DiL will not have a second or third as after her first Moderna vaccination she developed cranial palsy. Her eye became paralyzed and she had terrible migraines. This lasted 2 months.
Of course they will not say it was down to the vaccine but they cannot disprove it and she is now naturally wary.
What should they do with her - slap her in prison?

Hetty58

I don't see why people should be given the freedom to go about infecting others with a potentially deadly virus.

Normally, I'm all for freedom of choice and against anything compulsory. Still, in present (abnormal) circumstances, I think the unvaccinated (rather than the vulnerable) should have their freedom restricted. Access to bars, restaurants, hotels, air travel, indoor events, gyms and pools etc. isn't necessary for life, after all.

Responsible folk have been vaccinated, not just for their own safety, but for the welfare of others, too. They're less likely to catch the virus. If they do, they're less likely to transmit it:

www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/

HETTY58 can you please tell me why you think that anybody that is unvaccinated will be infected therefore not allowed to move around freely ..what evidence do you base this on ?

I’m not against vaccine passports either. We had to have them to enter Greece in September.
People who had a reaction to a vaccine, such as dragonfly’s DiL have a medical reason for not having the vaccine and as such would be given a passport. After all we had people who claimed they were unable to wear a simple face mask when it was obligatory. Other countries had none of that, it was wear the mask or stay outside. But the UK allowed medical reasons for not wearing a mask, so it follows it would be allowed to not have had the vaccine for medical reasons if a vaccine passport were ever to be introduced. It won’t be though, not here.

Barmeyoldbat

Yes Maddy I would also like to see more restrictions with people having to ear a mask on public transport and in any indoor public place. But while we have an incompetent PM who had to be had to be asked 3 times on a hospital visit to put a mask on, then I am afraid I am also with you on pigs might fly.

Well there are sheep that will follow what an Person does, or there are people who are aware of what said person does is wrong and make their own choices to wear a mask. Seriously, even mandatory mask wearing was food for the antiestablishment to stamp their little tootsies and spout no one is telling me what to to do.

And there are people who don't follow the health advice closely, and see the PM of the country behaving in a particular way, and think that must be acceptable, because after all if a senior member of the government doesn't think he should be wearing a mask, that must be OK?

(that was a very long sentence )

Lincslass I love your ‘stamp their little tootsies and spout no-one is telling me what to do’
That about sums it up. Even in GN posters wrote how they thought this rule or that rule was silly and how they’d ignored the rule and they were fine. Out on the street you could see that in action.
I do blame the government for not following their own rules, but even more for giving people a chance to use the whiny ‘Well he did it first’ excuse, in order to do whatever they want instead of making an effort to protect others and themselves.

It was indeed a long sentence Alegrias but I think it’s true. If our Prime Minister regularly doesn’t wear a mask, then it gives out a message to others. As he had Covid so seriously, I’m surprised he isn’t more careful. I also had serious Covid, and I’m quite afraid of catching it again.