Friendship,advice and support if estrangement has affected your life.

DerbyshireLass brilliantly said.

That's why these equity ads annoy me by saying to release cash to help your children get on the property ladder. My parents saved and went without to buy their own house, my husband and I did to. And proud to say both my daughter and son in law and son and daughter in law did it themselves with no help from parents. They saved and made sacrifices to buy their own houses .

Some in there 20's,30's and even 40's expect handouts. Well that's not how the world works. If you want something you can't have it now if it's worth having work for it.

It is sad to have food banks but sadder still is girls and young women needing period products.

Everything you mentioned I remember. Also MPs used to have jobs and worked before becoming MPs especially Labour . Now it seems they all go to uni them become MPs.
Like to see them live on a normal persons wage.

Yes Smiles' Gloria' was brilliant and said exactly what was needed . Think someone said before if Estrangement was talked about on loose women people would see how wide the problem is.

5 years not 4. OMG have I reached that age where I'm subconsciously knocking years off.

Thanks DSL. I think we are all pioneers
rather like that.

Wow amazing post DSL have you thought of entering yourself into the leadership competition? You'd get my vote for PM and I don't care which political party you support. Even if it's 'Screaming Lord Such's Monster Raving Loony Party'.

From now on I’m not mentioning age, just over 21. My gran did that all her life, she used to say “ as old as my eyes and a bit younger than my teeth.”

MiaZadora81

If you come onto any forum, insulting and attacking other posters, and then telling them they don't know their own estrangement situation, it does tend to end in grief.?

That's not a generation issue - that's just common sense and good manners.

Good idea Allsorts. My paternal gran used to say that too and I had to ask mum what she meant.

Ah Lord Sutch.....now there's a blast from the past. Lol

Excellent posts Whiff and DSL.
11am and already 33 here. I'm too hot to natter long and hubby wants me to get the hairtrimmers out and help him cool off lol.

Make sure you concentrate hugs you don't want to give him a bad hair cut.

Very good posts Whiff and DSL

Sorry about my last post which was during the night and I felt so emotional and anxious. I think I must have conked out after 4am. While downstairs I just couldn't stop crying and felt really panicky. I had to settle myself down as I have had heart arrhythmia before and I didn't want that again.

thank you.

Don't be sorry. Pixie. We all have our panics and wobbles. We are here for you.

Anxiety is awful, the stomach churning, heart pounding. That's when we need comfort and support.

What a shame your husband either can't or won't help you.

How does it go again....."for richer, for poorer.....". ?

Thank you DSL

I’m going to try and have a nap this afternoon because I am so tired.

I have given up talking to my husband as everything I say is thrown in my face at a later date. He can be really canny but lately I haven’t been happy with him. Long story. thank you.

Never any need to apologise PP. Hope you can catch up on some sleep this afternoon. Take care.

I second that never be sorry for how you feel Pixie . It's our feelings that makes us human . At least here we can talk out how we feel . I would go mad if I couldn't admit how I really feel. Hence my rambles . Have a good nap Pixie . X

My daughter just let me know all the buses here are on strike from tomorrow . And no end date. So taxi for me tomorrow as can't walk that far then do exercise class and visiting a friend in the afternoon. They have been offered £14.67 per hour.

Lot of my craft group need the buses for work. ?

£5.17 above the national living wage, and it still isn't enough!!

Choir's been cancelled tonight; too hot.

"I very very rarely have reported a post, and in reporting this one I know it doesn't break guidelines I just think it is a pity when arguments ruin discussion, support and cause hurt. "- madgran77

You know you're misusing the system, but you're going to do it anyway and the people around you are encouraging the misbehavior because they're afraid of getting into arguments and getting their feelings hurt.

Why prevent conversation and discussion just because what I say might upset you? Isn't that one of the big arguments against estrangement...that walking away solves nothing?

Casting off people just because you don't like them is silly and doesn't solve any problems, I've read that many times here, but you all are so quick to throw out anyone who doesn't talk like you and agree with you immediately.

I hope you all have a lovely day .

I’m wondering if English may not be your first language Mia? and you’re using a translation program?

The title of this thread is about “Friendship, advice and support…” not enmity, confrontation and aggression which I’m seeing in your posts.

I am having a lovely day MiaZadora thanks in no small part to the great posts on this thread. Yours being another one Pantglas.

Madgran is not misusing the system she has not had a post deleted or a thread she started pulled.

I’m wondering if English may not be your first language Mia? and you’re using a translation program? -Pantglas

I do speak more than one language, but English is first. I never posted on this thread until someone accused me of being obsessive and stalking people and then I piped up to defend myself. I'm only still posting because people are still talking to me and I think it's rude not to respond.

*Madgran is not misusing the system she has not had a post deleted or a thread she started pulled.*- Smileless 2012

But smileless2012, you've had posts deleted, so does that mean you're misusing the system?

I will happily leave your thread alone once people stop responding.

I'm also having a lovely day. The plants I planted in May are doing well and I've got new flowers coming in a bunch I just pruned. My cats are happy and healthy and my partner and I have a date night upcoming. I'm also seeing a friend this weekend that I haven't seen in 4 years, so things are looking good.

Oh good, I'll stop responding then.

Finally!

Smileless2012

Oh good, I'll stop responding then.

Gosh smileless hope that doesn’t mean you stop responding to the rest of us? We need your calm and positive input on these threads!

No chance Pantglas .

MiaZadora81

"I very very rarely have reported a post, and in reporting this one I know it doesn't break guidelines I just think it is a pity when arguments ruin discussion, support and cause hurt. "- madgran77

You know you're misusing the system, but you're going to do it anyway and the people around you are encouraging the misbehavior because they're afraid of getting into arguments and getting their feelings hurt.

Why prevent conversation and discussion just because what I say might upset you? Isn't that one of the big arguments against estrangement...that walking away solves nothing?

Casting off people just because you don't like them is silly and doesn't solve any problems, I've read that many times here, but you all are so quick to throw out anyone who doesn't talk like you and agree with you immediately.

I hope you all have a lovely day .

* MiaZadora81*

Maybe you need to think about how you are putting your points across? You are very confrontational and insulting to members who are feeling quite fragile and vulnerable at times.
All people have done is point out to you is that estrangement is not always the simplistic , black and white issue your posts imply , eg; estrangement = "bad" parenting . You don't seem to want to accept that is not always the case and certainly not true for many of us.
Please read the title of this thread again, "Friendship, Advice and Support", if you cannot offer that, then by all means start your own thread.