Harry: "I want my Father back. I want my brother back"

DiamondLily

Harry considers them toxic. They, probably, view him the same way.

As with all families, I would imagine mistakes have been made by both sides.

But, there are thousands of miles between them, and both have the wealth to live comfortable, cushioned, fulfilled lives.

So, it really would be best all round, if they all just got on with their lives, doing what they do. Both sides to cease with all the briefings.

This ongoing argument just diminishes the reputation of this country, especially abroad.

Our government must be cheering though - despite the absolute shambles this country is now in, the whole thing is getting buried by the media, under an avalanche of royal drivel. 🙄

Years ago before my son got into drugs he was quite sensible and even said to me once that having different views is like France and Germany in the war (that both sides thought they were doing the right thing) He used to be ok with us thinking different things, but still getting along.

Once he had got involved in the Far Right / anti vax and ascension groups, plus taking hallucinogenic drugs all his tolerance vanished.

We always used to admit fault on both sides.

Most people don't have Harry's wealth and privilege though, or access to a therapist whenever they need one. When is it going to stop? I don't doubt he's had a hard time , yet I'm sure his family view him as equally toxic.

I think the RF will have to respond, in some way, sooner or later, to be honest.

The book has shot to the top of the Amazon best seller list, and with purchases and prior orders, it's rocketing up the lists of retail bookshops. So, a lot of people will read it, and a certain proportion, especially across the pond, will believe it all.

Which doesn't do much for their reputations.

From purely personal and recent experience, I found that the less I responded to public allegations and accusations, both verbally to others, and spread all over various social media, (naming me), which were all untrue, the more extreme my accuser got. Keeping a so called "dignified silence" didn't work at all well.

In the end, it required, and got, a robust response, both personally and using a solicitor.

Sitting silent and just taking all the brickbats isn't always the answer.

However, the RF will, rightly, do what they think is the best way.😗

OnwardandUpward

DiamondLily

Harry considers them toxic. They, probably, view him the same way.

As with all families, I would imagine mistakes have been made by both sides.

But, there are thousands of miles between them, and both have the wealth to live comfortable, cushioned, fulfilled lives.

So, it really would be best all round, if they all just got on with their lives, doing what they do. Both sides to cease with all the briefings.

This ongoing argument just diminishes the reputation of this country, especially abroad.

Our government must be cheering though - despite the absolute shambles this country is now in, the whole thing is getting buried by the media, under an avalanche of royal drivel. 🙄

Years ago before my son got into drugs he was quite sensible and even said to me once that having different views is like France and Germany in the war (that both sides thought they were doing the right thing) He used to be ok with us thinking different things, but still getting along.

Once he had got involved in the Far Right / anti vax and ascension groups, plus taking hallucinogenic drugs all his tolerance vanished.

We always used to admit fault on both sides.

Most people don't have Harry's wealth and privilege though, or access to a therapist whenever they need one. When is it going to stop? I don't doubt he's had a hard time , yet I'm sure his family view him as equally toxic.

Yes, addictions or regular consumption of drugs do throw something else into the mix. Harry does freely admit to taking various drugs, and I wonder whether doing that, plus using weird mystic healing therapies, has made him more paranoid and vengeful than he would have been otherwise.

Sad really, for all concerned.🙁

IMO they should remain silent. The only way to 'win the game' is by refusing to play it. Those who support and believe Harry will do so anyway, though how anyone can baffles me.

From the YouGov website:

A newly released YouGov survey conducted on 5-6 January shows that just 26% of Britons have a positive view of Prince Harry, the lowest level since we started tracking in 2011. This represents a seven point drop since the previous survey in early December. Currently, approach two thirds of Britons (64%) have a negative view of the fifth in line to the throne, up from 59%. Even younger Britons, who generally tended to hold favourable views of Prince Harry, are now divided, with 41% having a positive impression and 41% a negative one. In December’s survey there had been a twenty-point lead, with 49% holding a positive view and 29% a negative one. Attitudes towards King Charles, Kate Middleton and Meghan Markle remain unchanged since the December survey, but there has a drop in Prince William’s popularity. The number of people with a positive view of the new Prince of Wales has fallen eight points from 77% in December to 69% last week. At the same time the number with a negative view rose from 15% to 20%.

It’ll be interesting to see how the numbers change when people have read the book.

So true Smileless

That will be interesting MaggieMaybe

I will also be interested to see whether people think it was a waste of their money. I imagine the charity shops will be full of his books soon.

I’m relying on it. I do intend to read it, but only when I can get it in the 3 books for £1 offer at our local charity shop.

As with all books, it will land up in a charity shop, sooner or later.

At the moment, though, it's earning him and the publishers a shed load of money:

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-book-spare-bestseller-list-b2259018.html#:~:text=The%20Duke%20of%20Sussex's%20memoir,ahead%20of%20its%20release%20date.

Well, as we have already seen of Harry's life, money has not made him happy.

So good luck to him.

DiamondLily

As with all books, it will land up in a charity shop, sooner or later.

At the moment, though, it's earning him and the publishers a shed load of money:

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-book-spare-bestseller-list-b2259018.html#:~:text=The%20Duke%20of%20Sussex's%20memoir,ahead%20of%20its%20release%20date.

It's also making £1.6 million for Sentebale and £300,000 for WellChild

I do hope that today sees the end of the media coverage of Harry and his book etc. Apart from the information that there was a queue of one person outside one of London’s largest bookshops when it opened, and in another there were more staff than customers and in a third the reporters were stopping passers by because no-one was coming out having purchased it..

I think he would be well advised to return to his wife and family and just get on with the life he has chosen. He has used every device possible to “tell his truth”. Well, he’s told it, a lot of it was heartbreakingly sad, he has vented, he can do no more. Take a deep breath and look to the future now and close the door on the past. If he can’t do this, that all the furore has been for nothing.

It's also making £1.6 million for Sentebale and £300,000 for WellChild
Which evidently vindicates all his actions.

Yes that's true Onward.

It's good to know that charities are benefiting Glorianny but a drop in the ocean no doubt when compared to the amount Harry will make.

Smileless2012

Yes that's true Onward.

It's good to know that charities are benefiting Glorianny but a drop in the ocean no doubt when compared to the amount Harry will make.

I doubt if either charity would see it that way .

I agree. There is trouble in most families. Jealousy, bad feelings and misunderstandings. But I think the Royal family are right not to comment. That could make things worse. Who knows how much of anything someone says is true? Both sides would state their beliefs and they will be different?
The book can cause harm but Sadly, Harry will never be welcomed back after this - he has betrayed his own family by acting this way. Its a shame for them all. Just glad the Queen didn't have to witness it all.

Smileless2012

Yes that's true Onward.

It's good to know that charities are benefiting Glorianny but a drop in the ocean no doubt when compared to the amount Harry will make.

I'm not sure that those charities will want to be associated with him re his Taliban claims and drug references.

I agree ChrissiB

If someone is so unforgiving and bitter and vengeful as this, then what can you do? Sometimes words are not "enough" and an apology does no good if it is not accepted.

I'm sure they'll be grateful Glorianny but let's not kid ourselves that his motivation is in anyway altruistic. He's in it for the money and possibly revenge and no amount of charitable donations will change that.

I agree Smileless

He's in it for the money (that won't make him happy, because if money made him happy he'd already be joyful)

Diamondlily I do understand you POV, having also had an ex smear me. I didn't respond and I went away quietly because at the time I did not have the emotional energy to deal with it. Unfortunately this may have caused many people to interpret the silence as guilt. However people will think what they want to even if you did explain.

Yes, addictions or regular consumption of drugs do throw something else into the mix. Harry does freely admit to taking various drugs, and I wonder whether doing that, plus using weird mystic healing therapies, has made him more paranoid and vengeful than he would have been otherwise. (This certainly applies to my estranged son, sadly)

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Two things I have learned:

Be careful who you let on your ship, because some people will sink the whole ship, just because they can't be the captain

and

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them"

Will the charities, including Setambule, want the money now and the irrevocable link it will increase or make for them.

The source of charitable funds is being examined in much more detail now and charities have returned donations because the donors, whether corporate or personal are considered to be unacceptable on personal, business, environmental and polital grounds.

Charities may well nor want to to be associated with money coming from someone prepared to sell their family secrets, most, unsubstantiated, to the highest bidder and who has caused so much ruckus and got such negative publicity. Too much baggage comes with the money.

Apparently today is the five year anniversary of a deadly mudslide in Montecito. Most residents have been evacuated, but it's not known whether H&M have chosen to stay or not.

They probably aren't safe if they leave their home due to extra security challenges of having their kids and dogs, so they might have chosen to stay. Also can probably afford a Safe Room. I'm sure they will be fine, unlike many others.

OnwardandUpward

He's in it for the money (that won't make him happy, because if money made him happy he'd already be joyful)

Diamondlily I do understand you POV, having also had an ex smear me. I didn't respond and I went away quietly because at the time I did not have the emotional energy to deal with it. Unfortunately this may have caused many people to interpret the silence as guilt. However people will think what they want to even if you did explain.

Yes, addictions or regular consumption of drugs do throw something else into the mix. Harry does freely admit to taking various drugs, and I wonder whether doing that, plus using weird mystic healing therapies, has made him more paranoid and vengeful than he would have been otherwise. (This certainly applies to my estranged son, sadly)

Yes, it does take energy and anger to respond, but I can't just be libelled everywhere. If she'd have kept my real name off of her fantasies, I'd have probably just ignored her, but she didn't.🙄

I hope the RF are stoic - he's contracted to write another two books, and she's contracted to write one. Plus all the accompanying interviews.

They will, obviously, have to contain new stuff, so it's going to be a slog sitting there ignoring it all.

Still, each to their own.🙂

DianondLily
I hope the RF are stoic - he's contracted to write another two books, and she's contracted to write one. Plus all the accompanying interviews.

They will, obviously, have to contain new stuff, so it's going to be a slog sitting there ignoring it all
Is that why H needs to get back with his family -to provide further material?