Harry: "I want my Father back. I want my brother back"

I think Harry was desperate to be loved, and Megan seemed to provide that.. but I do wonder how happy he is now, pretty much estranged from his family (and country) and unable to share his children with them... it must be quite a lonely life..

Of course they can reply. They choose not to. Just like they choose lots of things.

House!!

Perhaps his loved ones should have given more thought to this before they threw him out

They didn’t ‘throw him out’. H&M made their own decision to leave when things didn’t work out how they wanted it to. And they were given another year after that to see how it all worked out, with the option being that the door was open for them to return.

pascal30

I think Harry was desperate to be loved, and Megan seemed to provide that.. but I do wonder how happy he is now, pretty much estranged from his family (and country) and unable to share his children with them... it must be quite a lonely life..

Good points pascal30:

Diana would never have wanted her children to fall out in this very public way
I keep wondering where we would be if Diana was alive. She would never have allowed things to go this far. She would have acted as mediator. I also think she would be an experienced woman of the world by now, and would have kept Meghan under control!

Chestnut

^Diana would never have wanted her children to fall out in this very public way^
I keep wondering where we would be if Diana was alive. She would never have allowed things to go this far. She would have acted as mediator. I also think she would be an experienced woman of the world by now, and would have kept Meghan under control!

Oh boy! Now expecting one woman traumatised by the RF to control another one traumatised by the RF. I know victims should support each other but that doesn't mean controlling others does it?

Diana had no problem with family upsets, at the time of her death she wasn’t speaking to her mother, her brother or sisters.

welbeck

Floriel

It reminds of the old story of the boy who shoots both his parents and pleads for mercy from the judge - ‘Have pity on me, I’m a poor orphan.’

the above is given as an explanation to someone asking what does chutzpah mean.
it is a neat illustration of the attitude.

As I said upthread

Quote MawtheMerrier Tue 03-Jan-23 14:28:02

volver

House!!

Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣

volver

You're doing it again.

I'm really tempted to create a Harry and Meghan Bingo card. It will include:

He always looks so miserable.
I don't hate him, I feel sorry for him
He's got nothing else to sell (Note to self - don't mention Invictus or the documentary series he produced.)
He upset our poor, late queen.
He upset our poor, late queen's poor, late husband.
She wants to bring down the monarchy.
He'll regret it eventually, then what....
She'll leave him, wait and see...

volver perhaps we could do it on a points system instead. 1 point for first cliche, 2 for second. etc Towards the end of the thread we could award a cup to the poster with the most points

bully for you.
i responded to the posting as i read it.
i had not at that time proceeded to read further in the thread.
as they say, great minds think alike.
(fools seldom differ).

Glorianny

Callistemon21

he's just doing what you all wanted earning his own living (and wsupporting charities- but I suppose that's wrong as well)

Yes, jolly good, so are most of our DC I expect.
Well done

But not trashing their families in the process then crying crocodile tears in public because their loved ones have withdrawn in their hurt and confusion.

My DSs were raised in the real world and are useful and productive members of society.
Harry was raised in a bubble and an institution his main purpose being a substitute. Not surprisingly he has few skills and needs expensive protection. so he's making money any way he can.
Perhaps his loved ones should have given more thought to this before they threw him out.

But he's an ex-Army officer, Glorianny!

There is support and guidance available, both from official and voluntary sectors. Harry knows that because he helped set up The Invictus Games too and will know how and where to get help and training.
There was a wealth of opportunity out there for him without being part of the Royal 'Firm'. He has seized some of these opportunities but would never have been in this unhappy position if he'd pursued all the opportunities available to him and not tried to earn money by publicly criticising his family.

GagaJo

volver

House!!

Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣

I agree!

Didn't Meghan sue the Mail for publishing extracts from a letter she wrote to her father? I admit I never read the extracts, nor have I seen the latest Netflix series. What occurs to me is that she was upset a private letter not intended for publication had been shared with others. Doesn't the same go for private conversations between individuals? From what I have read Harry and Meghan have both reported on and given their version of private happenings and conversations because it suited them to do so, which seems a tad hypocritical. I have a family member to whom we talk only on the most superficial level as I cannot trust her with anything that I'd prefer to remain private. When trust is broken it is very hard to mend.

Perhaps his loved ones should have given more thought to this before they threw him out

He wasn't banished from the realm!
He went, as you said yourself, of his own accord, to try to make his own way in life.

I'm estranged from a parent and siblings too, so of course I will post with bias BUT I don't recognise his behaviour as I was deeply upset I'd been estranged by a parent - they are supposed to love you unconditionally and I actually (before therapy) blamed myself as I had been abused and manipulated over a number of years - so of course it was my fault iykwim

I don't recognise Harry's actions as that of my own but I do understand the need to be loved by your parents, even when you are an adult, even in your 40s. It is what they are supposed to do after all. Would I go on television and talk about it? No, I can't understand that but maybe powerful men are more vengeful in general compared to ordinary women

Perhaps his loved ones should have given more thought to this before they threw him out

BINGO!
Does this win all the points for the best cliché?

They all have enough money to go to group therapy and sort this out behind closed doors really, if they all wanted to.

No, my favourite is "he always looks so miserable"

Makes we wonder if people are following him around all day counting how many times he smiles.

Callistemon21

^Perhaps his loved ones should have given more thought to this before they threw him out^

He wasn't banished from the realm!
He went, as you said yourself, of his own accord, to try to make his own way in life.

He went to Canada (isn't that part of 'the realm"?). He came back to negotiate a role, wanted to be half-in, half-out then was informed he was out. He was left with no protection and his whereabouts public knowledge. Not surprisingly he left the realm for a safe haven.
Now this may not be as the RF saw it. But as they only leak and brief Royal correspondents when they feel like it I don't know.

The truth is, surely, that none of us know. This is on the face of it, a private family disagreement being stirred up by the press, and frankly, I am indifferent to the the entire family. I mean them no harm, but they have no impact on my life.

When I watch interviews with Harry he reminds me very much of a relative I had who fortunately emigrated down under. He was the most pompous, self inflated individual. In the end I could not even be in the same room as he was so self entitled. Fate blessed us when he went down under in search of a new audience. Even Harry's tones and expressions are similar.

LRavenscroft

When I watch interviews with Harry he reminds me very much of a relative I had who fortunately emigrated down under. He was the most pompous, self inflated individual. In the end I could not even be in the same room as he was so self entitled. Fate blessed us when he went down under in search of a new audience. Even Harry's tones and expressions are similar.

Down Under, do you say?

I might have met him 😲

Callistemon21

Glorianny

Callistemon21

he's just doing what you all wanted earning his own living (and wsupporting charities- but I suppose that's wrong as well)

Yes, jolly good, so are most of our DC I expect.
Well done

But not trashing their families in the process then crying crocodile tears in public because their loved ones have withdrawn in their hurt and confusion.

My DSs were raised in the real world and are useful and productive members of society.
Harry was raised in a bubble and an institution his main purpose being a substitute. Not surprisingly he has few skills and needs expensive protection. so he's making money any way he can.
Perhaps his loved ones should have given more thought to this before they threw him out.

But he's an ex-Army officer, Glorianny!

There is support and guidance available, both from official and voluntary sectors. Harry knows that because he helped set up The Invictus Games too and will know how and where to get help and training.
There was a wealth of opportunity out there for him without being part of the Royal 'Firm'. He has seized some of these opportunities but would never have been in this unhappy position if he'd pursued all the opportunities available to him and not tried to earn money by publicly criticising his family.

But his charity and humanitarian work is continuing Callistemon21 I don't suppose he feels he can make money from that though. They were presented with a "Ripple of Hope" Award in December.