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Mamasperspective Sun 12-May-24 21:19:55

Hi Gransnet,

I have been a member for some time now and, although not a gran myself, I am an older mum (early/mid 40s) to 2 little people (toddler and baby). Partner and I are very happy and settled in our relationship and our kids are happy and thriving.

For context - after giving birth to my first, it felt like MIL was trying to take over my motherhood experience and it negatively impacted me and my ability to bond with my new baby. I had waited 9 months to meet the child who I had grown inside me and carried for all that time and it felt like MIL became quite territorial over my baby (my mum passed before my children were born) which created a lot of resentment.

Since then, both partner and I had an open yet polite and respectful conversation with MIL on how her actions had impacted me and my experience as I was pregnant again and didn't want the same experience the second time round.

The response I got made her out to be the victim, it was extremely passive aggressive and she was throwing in example of things that had happened to her throughout her life that had nothing to do with me or baby. She then made the decision to cut me off but she still wanted to see her son and our child, just without me.8

Anyway MIL has not spoken to me for a year (I have reached out a few times) and she has now been stopped having access to our 2 children.

My kids are young and kids do not develop autobiographical memory before the age of 4/5 so my eldest will never remember her being around and she never met my youngest.

I joined this site during the periods where I was reaching out and wanting resolution as I hoped that, by looking at others experiences, it would help me understand her train of thought but now I am completely done with her.

Please, for anyone estranged, feel free to ask me anything so that I may attempt to provide some context from a DIL's point of view.

I will be completely honest anbout my experience and not sugar coat anything but at the same time I will do my upmost to be kind and respectful so I just ask the same from anyone commenting.

I just feel like if communication was more open and everyone was willing to look more objectively at their own behaviour (as well as being mindful that things are different now to years ago) then many (not all) of these situations could be avoided.

All my partner and I wanted was to build our own little family together and there has been so much drama that, in my mind, was completely unnecessary. I may ask questions in response but please understand this is because I'm still trying to understand why someone would want to handle a situation in the way it has been handled.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 09:28:49

The opening post did what it was designed to do - cause arguments, with other posters cheering from the sidelines hmm I wonder if they're enjoying their popcorn DL.

VioletSky Fri 17-May-24 10:12:55

Whiff no, I wasn't believed but I did send my diagnosis letter gransnet and explain. I let it go too far arguing but it does take 2 to argue and I was always outnumbered, hence the many reports against me. Many comments were deleted though, not just mine and often my comments were twisted into different meanings which was sad and did push me over the edge at times.

As you can see I am absolutely fine now and my mental and physical health is great.

VioletSky Fri 17-May-24 10:13:38

maxiepants

I'm sorry this is making you feel down, VioletSky. I've always thought you make great sense and come at things from a very empathetic and gentle angle.

I cannot say the same for some others on this forum.

Thank you for saying that

EllaMayo Fri 17-May-24 10:53:52

Smileless2012

Your recollections are not facts just because you say they are. They are colored by your experiences and bolstered by repetition. Other people recollect the same events differently. This is human nature. You would do well in life to apply this to your relationship with other people. Such as your own children.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 11:36:37

Thank you for the advice EllaMayo but it isn't needed. My recollections of VS's experiences on GN are fact, as I have already said.

Bridie22 Fri 17-May-24 12:12:37

ella mayo, that was nasty and personal remark you made to smileless , you are lower8ng the tone further !

EllaMayo Fri 17-May-24 12:24:22

Thank you for proving my point Smilless2012

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 12:41:30

No worries EllaMayo, happy to oblige smile

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 12:42:22

ps especially when the poster is new to GN.

DiamondLily Fri 17-May-24 12:51:05

Gransnet must be placing adverts somewhere with the amount of new people rocking up this week, apparently knowing so much about other posters…😑

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 12:54:24

Yes DL it always fascinates me how a 'new' one comes along with the knowledge they have, or have they been 'lurking' for sometime but never posted before hmm.

EllaMayo Fri 17-May-24 12:59:37

We were all new once

And new to post doesn't necesarily mean new to reading the forums.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 13:14:21

Welcome to GN EllaMayo

VioletSky Fri 17-May-24 13:14:46

Again i find it really troubling that people have such a negative experience here they post about it elsewhere and they feel they are having to fight and argue to be allowed any space here

We don't have to fight and argue though, taking a deep breath and explaining patiently our point of view has been shown as effective

eddiecat78 Fri 17-May-24 13:16:16

It says a lot about someone's character when they choose to post for the first time just to be unpleasant

VioletSky Fri 17-May-24 13:19:55

eddiecat78

It says a lot about someone's character when they choose to post for the first time just to be unpleasant

I think that is actually true of every individual thread. Posting for the first time to argue on any separate thread will show a negative facet to a person's character.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 13:28:42

Well if I'd had such a negative experience on a particular online site, I wouldn't go back. The OP has posted several times on GN since her 'negative experience' and prior to this thread.

I certainly wouldn't go on to goad those who were supposed to be responsible for my negative experience, expecting a "tirade of abuse" and entertaining others on another site with my exploits.

Who is having to fight and argue to be allowed any space here VS?

I find it very strange behaviour TBH.

Well I suppose it sets the standard eddie.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 13:31:48

Posting for the first time to argue on any separate thread will show a negative facet to a person's character. It not what is said but how it's said.

NotSpaghetti Fri 17-May-24 13:34:20

It wasn't her first posting on Gransnet - maybe you didn't notice the other(s)?

EllaMayo Fri 17-May-24 13:34:45

eddiecat78

It says a lot about someone's character when they choose to post for the first time just to be unpleasant

I'm sorry you felt my post was unpleasant eddiecat78. I realize it sounded forthright but I take my lead from other posters on this site and call it how I see it

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 13:38:31

I must have done NotSpaghetti, where are they because nothing's come up on the GN search?

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 13:39:29

that should be 'I must not have done'

VioletSky Fri 17-May-24 13:40:06

It would be so lovely if I were allowed my own opinions from my own perspective

That's what "space" means

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 13:41:49

You are VS, as we all are but that doesn't mean you wont be disagreed with.

NotSpaghetti Fri 17-May-24 13:56:28

Smileless2012

I must have done NotSpaghetti, where are they because nothing's come up on the GN search?

If you put Mamasperspective into the search box you will see loads of different threads she's commented on - what to buy for a baby, something about mother of the bride/groom outfits, mothers day, time with grandbaby, etc.

The one thread I remember best she was worried about going no contact so it's directly related to this thread.

BUT that said, she is definitely not a new poster.