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LiveLaughLaove Wed 07-Mar-18 08:53:43

LIVE - LAUGH- LOVE-

I see a lot of hurt mothers on here, and I wonder where all went wrong. It’s quote unfortunate, and as much as everyone’s story may be different, the vast majority of conflict and estrangement seems to evolve between mothers and their adult sons. MILs and DILs can’t see eye to eye. Grandchildren cut off over adult fall outs. Sons being blamed for not having a backbone. Or being under their wives control. There’s obviously a disconnect somewhere. But where? After reading many of the responses, the common theme amongst 90% of the responses seems to be, “I’m estranged but I don’t know what I did wrong.” Again on a very case specific basis, do we all really not know what we did wrong, or are we too embarrassed to admit our faults to our estranged child? How many of sincerely apologize? When do we stop blaming others and reflect more on our own imperfections? Are we totally without blame? Were we respectful of other people’s choices? Are your apologies sincere?

An apology is an acknowledgment of one’s fault. An admission of discourtesy; followed by an expression of regret or remorse. An apology acknowledges the harm your actions caused. Irrespective of whether or not you think they were harmful. An apology is sincere. Its sincerity is self-spoken. Sincere apology open platforms for dialogue. Insincere apologies effectively add locks, to previously locked doors.

Was your apology sincere? Did it show that you’ve taking responsibility for your actions? Did your apology show you taking ownership? Taking ownership helps rebuild trust with the estranged individual. Apologies that lack sincerity, further function to jeopardize your overall integrity, and cause the relationship to be more toxic. Yes, apologizing is hard work. It means that one has to accept that they were wrong, admit to fault and shun their distasteful behavior. But at times our egos cloud our better judgment. Pride, family/social status. stubbornness, and embarrassment etc. further impair our better judgement. These are factors that inhibit our admission to fault. Start by expressing remorse, admitting responsibility, empathizing and making amends. Don’t offer excuses, never apologize when angry, don’t apologize repeatedly. Promise it will not happen again.

If your apologies sound/have sounded anything close to the ones listed below you to step back, rethink and re-offer a sincere apology to your estranged child. Remember an apology though necessary isn’t always sufficient, so allow for time to heal the wounds you caused. As you allow for time to do its job, remember integrity: its not in your place to dictate, control or question the victims healing time, or whether or not they choose to forgive you.

Examples of apologies that may be ignored on a lack of sincerity basis.

1.The power struggle apology. (Ok. I’m sorry. Why should I apologize first?).

2.The entitled apology. (I’m sorry. Remember, I’m your Mother/Father/Spouse etc)

3.The fake apology - (I’m sorry you/she/he, felt that way).

4.The assumptive apology. (I think I may have hurt you. I’m sorry).

5.Apologies that excuse the abuser’s bad behavior. (I’m sorry, but I only acted out of love).

6.Victim blaming apologies. (I’m sorry, but no one has ever made me so upset).

7.Victim shaming apologies. (I’m sorry but he/she shouldn’t have done that).

8.The evasive apology. (I’m sorry but I don’t know what I did wrong).

9.Apologies that dispute the abusers’ offence. (I’m sorry if that happened).

10.The controlling apologies. (I’m sorry but we need to move on).

11.The insincere apologies (Sorry but we’ve both made many mistakes).

12.The abusive apology. (I’m sorry but I’m hurting because of you)

13.The sarcastic apology. (Fine! I’m sorry).

14.The gas lighting apology. (I’m sorry, it’s all in your head – a very dangerous apology).

15.The expectations apology. (How many times have I said sorry?)

16.The reverse apology. (I’m sorry I hurt you, but you hurt me first).

17.The accusatory apology. (I’m sorry I called you lazy, but everyone thinks you’re lazy).

18.The mind game apology (I’m sorry but none of this would have happened if you’d listened to me).

19.The defensive apology. (I’m sorry, everyone knows it’s not in my character to act that way)

20.The manipulative apology. (I’m sorry, just trust me).

21.The treacherous/vengeful apology. (I’m sorry, but she/he needs to go).

How sincere are you when you apologize?

Madgran77 Sun 18-Mar-18 13:40:43

Stansgean its not so much being at the cocktail party as genuine interest in getting an answer to specific questions! I think the OP should take responsibility for explaining that OP .....I was genuinely interested in having those questions answered ...they have now partially been answered but still waiting to see if the rest will be!

Yogagirl Sun 18-Mar-18 16:39:58

Think we grans can have a nice long nap Madgran whilst waiting for OP to answer zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Chewbacca Sun 18-Mar-18 16:48:56

I suspect that LLL knew they'd been rumbled; couldn't back up any of their assertions or "advice" and scarpered! grin

OurKid1 Sun 18-Mar-18 19:08:00

Crumbs ... is this thread still being unravelled? Like someone said above, I'm just browsing and can't resist having a quick peek ...

OurKid1 Sun 18-Mar-18 19:12:18

Just realised that LLL's name is (presumably) misspelt - 'LAove'! I, guessing that he/she will tell me off for saying that using a lot of psychobabble/long words which few of us ever use in everyday speech/patronising rubbish in their own unique and special way.

MawBroon Sun 18-Mar-18 19:29:50

Took you a while ourKid1
I commented on this back on 9 March grin

trisher Sun 18-Mar-18 20:22:45

Oh MawBroon I think that needs an apology. You have 21 to choose from. grin

Chewbacca Sun 18-Mar-18 21:12:10

Number 10 seems to be a catchall kind of apology, would that do Maw?

MawBroon Sun 18-Mar-18 21:14:47

I apologise that I spotted something which you took a further 9 days to notice. Sincerely. grin

Chewbacca Sun 18-Mar-18 21:24:40

grin sincerely offered Maw. But will it be accepted?

Yogagirl Mon 19-Mar-18 07:07:58

grin grin

OurKid1 Mon 19-Mar-18 08:34:30

I accept your apology unconditionally Maw. In fact I am grateful to you for pointing out my lack of attention to your post of 9th March. In my defence, after the first couple of posts my interest in this thread has been confined to wondering if it is still continuing ...

Just thought ... could this be the start of another strand? Acceptance of apologies - types of ...

To start - my acceptance is an apology through gritted teeth, tempered with a touch of sarcasm
defensiveness realisation that you are quite right.

I apologise for my lack of attentiveness. blush

(To avoid any misunderstanding Maw all of the above is tongue in cheek. grin )

MawBroon Mon 19-Mar-18 09:22:25

grin
Moving on......

gummybears Tue 20-Mar-18 10:44:24

Was sent this link and has to drop it here as an example of "Yeah I Don't Think An Apology Is Going To Be Enough" (top story in the article)

Cringed as I read it sad

www.thestar.com/life/advice/2018/02/24/cut-off-from-grandchildren-after-cruel-comment-ask-ellie.html

MawBroon Tue 20-Mar-18 12:44:10

Same person? ???

Chewbacca Tue 20-Mar-18 14:38:47

Same negativity. Same blank and white opinions. Same person, I reckon.

gummybears Tue 20-Mar-18 18:45:19

I'm confused - who is the same person?

I posted the link because I was absolutely gobsmacked at the conduct of the letter writer...

MawBroon Tue 20-Mar-18 18:46:24

The “Agony Aunt”?

Oopsadaisy12 Tue 20-Mar-18 18:48:35

This thread has gone on for soooooooooo very long.

Oopsadaisy12 Tue 20-Mar-18 18:48:56

I must stop looking at it!

Madgran77 Tue 20-Mar-18 18:52:10

gummybearrs I was also stunned re the letter writers behaviour ...!!

Jalima1108 Tue 20-Mar-18 19:09:57

Well, it is Agony MawBroon!
(the thread)

gummybears Tue 20-Mar-18 20:02:21

I don't think even one of LLL's numbered apologies could fix what the letter writer and wife did grin

Yogagirl Wed 21-Mar-18 07:30:04

Is it a real story though [?] sounds too far fetched to me and if it is real... OMG! not surprised at the son's reaction!

gummybears Wed 21-Mar-18 08:23:03

Yoga, tbh I hope it's made up.