Calling SS on Tuesday

And I honestly do not care for any comments that are about me and my son as people.

I am a GP who has concerns over GC education so I called the education department at the local authority and they're looking into it. End of. There's nothing more to see here.

Concerns for a child are everybody's business

Granypie can I ask what sort of a future you see for your GCs if they are "sent to school"? What if they hate it? Will you then allow their mother to educate them in her own way? The idea that suddenly the LA are going to step in and transform these children's lives is just wrong. They remain their mother's children. You could if you wish try to build bridges with her, encourage your DS to take responsibility and provide some care and possibly schooling for them, you've chosen instead to hand the situation over to a service that is always overstretched and which has limited resources and solutions. I really don't know what you think iis going to happen but I''m fairly sure it won't work out as you expect it to.
You seem obsessed with schools, qualifications and tests. But it has been shown time and time again that actually children however they spend their early years can make progress in later life and can gain the qualifications they need. But I can tell you from experience that children who are desperately unhappy make no academic progress whatsoever.

If the children are not being educated correctly the LA will see to it that they are as they have powers to do so

You talk a lot about the children’s education, or lack of it, what about their happiness? Their mum and dad have just split, a granny who only sees them twice a year at most wants them taken from what they know and sent to school straight away so they stand a chance of sitting at a till in ASDA. Schools are not the happiest of places for many children. Their world is about to turned upside down again and they are only 7.
I understand you are worried about them but believe me there is more to be worried about than education. Many young people these days are suffering from depression, bullying, cyber bullying. Everything is not one sided. Are they happy, or were they before you stepped in?

The thread is about my concerns over the children's education and that is why I talk a lot about education

OP

Your son comes across as passive, inexistent and absent as person and father

Is that a product of the education you so much admire? What about his upbringing?

He is clearly not stepping up to the plate and you still think you want the best for the gc?

If anything, concentrate on your son and his inaction. Make him care about his kids and fight for them.

Now that you called, everything will get much more complicated.

This reminds me of the dear abby letter of the vegan gc whose grandma knew better, went against the vegan diet and then the grandparent was outraged she was cut off.

Granypie

Bibbity you seem desperate to turn this into some kind of slanging match with me about my son. The thread is about concerns over my gc education I have since notified the local authority and left it in their capable hands. If they deem the "education" suitable then nothing more will come of it, if not then they will see to it that the children are sent to school. They are the experts.

I have never once said that anything other than the children's education is being neglected.

If it improves your day to sit there seething with spite over my actions and a negative opinion of my son and his use of a telephone or lack thereof, a man you have never met and most likely never will, then you crack on love.

Because it’s so hilariously obvious what’s happened many posters here have even said it.

Big man runs home to mummy with awful tales about his wicked Ex and what a terrible mother she is.
So awful is the neglect that he has done zero about it.
Left them with her (why didn’t he take them, stay with them?)
And has done nothing about it in several years.

Did you ever challenge him on the hypocritical comment you posted here?
How can they be doing all these outdoor forest walks, cooking etc if they are always on devices?

If it’s so awful what legal steps has he taken to rectify the neglect? What calls has he made?

So either there is not neglect and he’s just stirring the pot.

Or he’s a bad father. Either way. He’s gross.

@hithere It may very well remind you of that but children do not have a right to eat meat nor do they hav a future that depends on it.
Veganism is a life choice which is none of the gp business but if the children became malnourished as a result it wouldn't matter who phoned and brought it to light. And the advice of keep out or you will be estranged is not right when it comes to children's welfare.

When estrangement happens those who carry out the estrangement have done it as a last resort. They have tried everything and the estrangement is as painful to them as it is to all involved and that's why everyone has a role in this outcome and has to be very honest with themselves as to what their role was.

Of course there are estrangements that are caused by one person using it as a punishment after one disagreement or to get their own way but that is not something anybody should live in fear of. If you have a member of the family who is likely to whip the GC away from you at the drop of the hat or unless you do as they say, you don't just ignore issues like the children's welfare or educational needs for fear of never seeing them again. We all want to see our GC but the GC needs must come first. I'd hate not to see them I don't see them much as it is but their well-being comes above my desire for a relationship and cuddles.

Exacrly, Bibbity! No wonder as soon as the relationship ended (did she kick him out?) he ran back to mummy rather than live independently.

As I said Bobbitt crack on love

@bibbity

Haha. I will but just remember the biggest failure to those children Is your son. And you enabling him.

So why are you so bothered?

Granypie
You missed the point - the gp made the vegan diet her business, just like you are choosing to make the unschooling your business

Unschooling is also another life choice.
Education comes in many flavours

The welfare of children has limits - does the child have a black eye, hit by the parents, malnourished, etc? Please call SS!
Parenting about schooling, how they dress, activities they do AND kids are happy and healhy do not fit that category at all.

Your standards of what is acceptable are not the only ones to be followed

Good grief, some posters on here really need to give their heads a wobble.

How do deeply personal and hurtful remarks about other members' families - people you don't know and are never likely to meet - add to the discussion?

Don't you have anything better to do in your lives?

I'm impressed by your patience, Granypie. I'm off.

Have you no life of your own that all you do is sit on FB making similar judgements in the majority of your responses

Maybe if your son had not moved so far away from his children he could have input into their day-to-day lives. Will he only see them a couple of times a year now?

Lol granypie - pot meets kettle!

There are other things to occupy your time instead of obsessing with this and you are telling posters what to do with their time?

Hilarious

Thanks @maggiemaybe the real shame is I have so many PMs some agree and some don't but they have all said they don't want to post on the thread or others because of the way some people behave on here. Spitting venom and getting in a spiteful rant judging and not allowing or respecting anything other than one point of view.

There's a few posters on here who are making others not want to post anything.

I agree Maggiemaybe; some horrible and insulting responses on here to Granypie.

It does sound as if your 'phone call to the LA has had a positive result and your concerns have been taken seriously Granypie.

I wouldn't blame you in the slightest if you decide not to come back and let us know if there have been any developments and what those are, but it would be good to know if you decide too.

I hope that going forward the situation improves.

Because you are Intentionally trying to cause trauma to a woman and her children.

While allowing a passively babying your son who is the only one participating in neglect. I absolutely think negligent parents need to be critiqued and he’s accountable.

And that’s what I’m doing. Discussing the negligent parents. That’s what you wanted with this thread right!l?

Education is not a life choice and yes there are alternatives to how a child is educated but if the rights and the needs aren't being met you don't need a black eye to tell you it's time to call in the right services

No the thread is about my concerns over GC education.

And thanks smileless2012 it's in the hands of the right people

only 7 years old is fine...they will soon catch up with schoolwork.
But what kind of person would rather see their grandchildren in care than being slightly left to their own devices.?

Surely your DS can find a middle way?
The Care system is not a plce to put children unless they are in danger.