Missing grandaughter so much

What do you mean Iam?

Iam64

VioletSky

I always imagine this utopia where people can give their advice to the OP without the gallery naying

Hmmm I’ve not you noticed objecting if your own comments are supported VioletSky.

Maybe yaying is OK but naying isn't

lyleLyle

Glorianny & Callistemon

That’s your opinion. Not sure if the OP confided in you what is helpful or not to her, but you’re entitled to your opinions. I’m not sure what impact you think it’s supposed to have on me. I don’t comment with the goal of approval of other commenters. I didn’t find the vast majority of the comments from people attempting to debate my opinion helpful, but as you can see I am unconcerned about that. Not sure what your goal is here with these interactions you keep initiating

🙂

I cannot even remember the last time someone agreed with me

Also, I'd just get embarrassed and shuffle off

you’re entitled to your opinions
Of course we are, thank you.

I'm really rather unconcerned about your opinion too.

Only that a little girl is in the middle of all this. It could be hypothetical of course, but it does happen.

I have a feeling of déjà vu re your posts, though.
🤔

I yayed you on 15/02/2023 12:32, VS!

Did you ican

Well this is awkward

Would you like some tea and cake?

VioletSky

I cannot even remember the last time someone agreed with me

Also, I'd just get embarrassed and shuffle off

I agreed with you that you might need iron supplements 😁
And you agreed with me that vitamin D supplements are good in the winter.

Remind me to take mine later 🙂

Take your vitamin D supplements later

Thank you for the reminder. 🙂

Glorianny

Isn't GN all about interacting? I always thought it was.

Where are the rules that state I must interact in a way you find acceptable though? I posted to the OP. I am not and wasn’t interested in debating others people’s or my opinion on the OP. That’s my choice and my right. I can choose my interactions. It’s just a fact.

VioletSky

Did you ican

Well this is awkward

Would you like some tea and cake?

Only if it’s calorie free! 🤣

It's metaphorical cake so yes

Callistemon21

^you’re entitled to your opinions^
Of course we are, thank you.

I'm really rather unconcerned about your opinion too.

Only that a little girl is in the middle of all this. It could be hypothetical of course, but it does happen.

I have a feeling of déjà vu re your posts, though.
🤔

Glad you’re concerned for the child. Not sure why you are sharing this with me, though.

lyleLyle

Glorianny

Isn't GN all about interacting? I always thought it was.

Where are the rules that state I must interact in a way you find acceptable though? I posted to the OP. I am not and wasn’t interested in debating others people’s or my opinion on the OP. That’s my choice and my right. I can choose my interactions. It’s just a fact.

Of course you can choose when you interact, what you can't do is criticise others for commenting on your posts. That's their choice.

Glorianny,

As long as my comments are within the talk guidelines established by the site, I can post what I want. You don’t have to like it. It’s just not something you have control over. And that’s okay. That’s life. I’m not engaging in debate on this OP. There’s nothing anyone can do about it .

lyleLyle you might want to consider vloging. It's a method by which you impart your especial wisdom that requires no acknowledgement of previous posts/wisdom and definitely no interaction with anybody else's opinions, let alone any meaningful debate. I understand it's the ideal platform for the egotist.

Oh, is that was Vloging is?....sounds incredibly boring. There is nothing worse than someone launching in with their perceived wisdom, without then acknowledging there might just be another view to be had.

I don't know if it still goes on but there used to be these people at Hyde Park Corner - on a soapbox, ranting and shouting, brooking no arguments, no matter how crazy their ideas were lol 🙄

The OP posted, briefly, looking, it seemed, for some support/advice, as she was unhappy about the situation. The thread then descended into criticism about her son, and herself, for some odd reason.

This section is supposed to be about support - many of the posts weren't very kind or supportive.🙁

If you don't want to debate with other posters then don't respond to them 1yleLyle but this is how a forum like GN works.

As you say DiamondLily there's been criticism of the OP and the OP herself though goodness knows why. I've criticised the mother of this little girl based on what we know; she's stopped the her father and her GM from seeing her because of money.

The father's been criticised based on assumptions.

Yes, Smileless - there was very little info, so I could only post what I could see. Obviously, there may be much more background to it.

Dad might be a feckless individual. Or may not.

Mum might be a spiteful parent that uses her child to score point over her ex. Or, may not.

I just feel sorry for children stuck between two warring parents.

She probably loves Mum, Dad and Gran.

Hope they sort it out anyway. 😉

Debate?

Since when was every thread a debate?

These are people's real lives, real lives aren't up for debate

Real children aren't objects

Real people under stress aren't cruel

OP just wants to see her grandaughter, that's not up for debate.

Helping OP achieve that is the goal, the only thing up for "debate" is whether some advice will help OP achieve that goal, yet people absolutely cannot see that others saying "this advice may cause more animosity and anger and we need to be careful here because a relationship hangs in the balance" is actually trying to help the OP, it is not about them.

Maybe because they view every thread as a debate

It was me who mentioned cruel several pages ago and I do think it is cruel to with hold contact when the child is only 5 and has a Dad and Gran who wants to see her and love her.The family courts actually look down on this kind of behaviour.

Surely the obvious thing to do if you believe a subject shouldn't be debated is to post your views and then leave and ignore any comments?

Glorianny

Surely the obvious thing to do if you believe a subject shouldn't be debated is to post your views and then leave and ignore any comments?

Or not post at all.

Any views posted are open to debate on a chat forum.

Depends if you want a success story for the OP glorianny

janejudge

The first step before court is mediation, which is a process that looks for calmness and a way to successfully co parent.

If its gone to court, that process has failed. Court would frown on parents who failed mediation because they couldn't communicate better than name calling and anger.

A lot of relationships fail because of the way people talk to each other because instead of realising that arguments are resolved with kindness they become angry and insulting.

If mum came to court with recorded or written evidence of Dad or other family members calling her names, I'm afraid it wouldn't go in Dad's favour at all.

Mum or someone close to mum is not here to advise on how she handles this