Voting quandry

GG MK 2 your posts on this thread alone.

" Where you really a LP supporter or just an LP supporter when it suited you Annie? Rather like JC."

" No 'we' Annie, but 'Labour'. Have you left the LP?"

" I am not in the least surprised that someone whose political views are of the exact opposite of those of the party AB says she supports will support what she has been saying M0nica - she has not been supporting the party but the outliers who have done all they can to destroy that party as it is currently constructed."

" And their loss makes you smile Annie?"

"Why on earth would it worry me that Annie doesn't like Corbyn"

Well on the last question it obviously does worry you and a handful of others Anniebach does not defend/like Corbyn, she most certainly did at the start of his Leadership by the way.

You and others who have been basically been insinuating Anniebach is some kind of Labour Saboteur, a turn coat.

I will say again Anniebach has in all the years I have been a member of GN pinned her colours to the mast, firmly RED. unlike those who are 'return' Labour Members.

Where were they then?

I'll tell you where. They were promoting other parties and telling us how the Labour Party were basically crap since New Labour took over. They wanted back to the days of ' Militant'
,Union Control of the Party and now they have it they have the cheek to now accuse Anniebach of doing exactly what they have done on GN themselves.

Why am I bothered?. I don't care which party a poster belongs to I will state my opinion and there is a difference between a poster who is making comments about a politician, party etc. to posters who are making personal comments about a poster.

Anya, it could have been so different , if labour had a strong leader I would have great hopes of a labour government come June

Yes, I totally agree POGS

Speaking as a Labour supporter myself can I suggest you back off GG2 and try to understand where AB is coming from.

I know AB and I had this very (heated) discussion with my daughter only last night. She is a teacher so no need to ask where her sympathies lie.

However, I've taken a deep breath and nailed my flag to the mast by displaying a Vote Labour poster in my window. It will do no good I know, but I'm sure you will understand my decision,

GGMk2, Can you really not see what word you left out and I put back in? Just shows you are replying too fast and not allowing yourself enough time to properly read and understand other people's submissions.

Anya, I do understand, I have a vote Welsh labour placard on a post on my front lawn . If I lived in Ben Besdshaws constituency I would be out on the leaflet drops , same for .yvette Cooper and many good Labour MP's , I am waiting for the results from the Rhondda, if Plaid takes it then I will be over there fighting for Chris Bryant , I want the party to keep the many good MP's, I want Corbyn out but that isn't going to happen. I would fight for any labour MP on Corbyns hit list . I want the party to survive and remain the .labour party not become the communist party in disguise

Yes, my protege in my old ward is back in and his husband. The one labour councillor in my new ward is back in with an increased majority, I was worried for him, he got in five yesrs ago with only a 24 majority . So proud of my local party , we work so hard for the town . Oh and we held our seat in a third ward, just had a text, so we did it for Welsh Labour Party and our leader Carwyn

anniebach I think you have the right idea in ignoring all GGM2's posts.
However, it's very wrong that the attacking posts to you keep coming.

Rosesarered, she has been baiting and attacking me on every thread for ages, I will not feed her need . I will follow Mrs Obama's wise words - when they go low we go high,

Good idea! I shall do the very same ab

I did so admire that woman Rosesarered

You see POGS, I think they are perfectly reasonable questions to ask of someone who has insisted on telling us her every feeling about both Corbyn and 'her' Labour Party. I do not know if Annie has only supported Labour in the Blair years - which from what she has said is what she sees as the only real Labour, so it is a reasonable question. I also do not know if she has actually left the Labour Party she has been in since Adam was a lad so that also, as she has regaled us in such depth about her view of the wrongness of the current democratically elected leader and the party that voted for him, seems perfectly reasonable to ask too - after all AB does not have to answer. She also put a smile when telling us of a Labour loss - why should I not comment on someone who has told us that they are a long term member, who has also told us what is right and what is wrong (at great length) when it comes being a LP member, doing that?

... and really POGS why should I not say 'Why on earth would it worry me that Annie doesn't like Corbyn' when explaining what about Annie's posts I feel are really, really questionable as a party member of any party (as I still don't know if she decided to leave).

It is Annie who has decided to share every single dot and tittle of her thinking. Surely that gives the rest of us to ask questions and express our opinions. I have not said that she is either a Labour Saboteur, or a turn coat those are your words.

I am really only replying in kind to ABs comments. You may not agree with my thinking POGS but that, sadly as you appear to think it does, does not make you right; it just means you too have an opinion; one others may not agree with. Their right is to express it just as yours is there is no right to expect agreement.

Rosesarered, she has been baiting and attacking me on every thread for ages ...

I neither bait nor attack you AB. You appear to think you can post anything and no one will question or disagree. Your level of posting will mean you get a high level of posts in reply but I am sure you will agree we all have a right to join in the discussion, put our opinions forward and question or disagree with those of other posters.

GracesgranMk2. Annie posted:

Labour has lost control of Merthyr council. The birth place of the Labour Party

And of me

Now, I assumed that the 'smile' was because Merthyr was her own place of birth and I can't see why you didn't.

yes Ana, the smile was a display of my pride in my birthplace , the labour loss of Merthyr was devastating, Corbyn should not have done his Hardie act there , big mistake, he is no Hardie,

Thought for the day - why didn't Hardie fight for the communists if as a Corbynite has claimed - communism is the true socialism , yet he formed a socialist party

Is 'yawn' a question or a discussion

GG MK 2

To be honest I don't really care about your excuses but I will say you do twist posts when it suits. Yes it is my opinion and I am also very happy to stick with every word I posted at 12.08.

You see an example would be this :-

Anniebach Fri 05-May-17 09:42:48
Labour has lost control of Merthyr council. The birth place of the Labour Party

And of me
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GracesGranMK2 Fri 05-May-17 10:03:24

And their loss makes you smile Annie?
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GGMK 2

"She also put a smile when telling us of a Labour loss - why should I not comment on someone who has told us that they are a long term member, who has also told us what is right and what is wrong (at great length) when it comes being a LP member, doing that? "
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GG MK 2 you read what you wanted to read in Anniebach's post because you are on her back all the time , along with others.

Did you not think beyond your accusation that Anniebach using the smile could have been because she was saying she was born in Merthyr and it's connection to the Labour Party? That's how I read it.

Did you not sit back for a second before posting Anniebach was laughing at a Labour loss?

Blimey, that's the least of the problems on GN lately.

I suppose it depends as well what posts are 'reported' at any one time maybe.

Hey ho.

<Thought for the day - why didn't Hardie fight for the communists if as a Corbynite has claimed - communism is the true socialism , yet he formed a socialist party>

A Corbynite has claimed?..... Not Jeremy himself, just some anonymous person. And where was that said, the Daily Mail?
Annie, just about all your objections refer to media reports and twisted words, which have been going on from the beginning.

I do feel inclined to say 'mind your own business' GNHQ when it's really all part and parcel of everyday life with sme members on the political threads!

Couldn't we have something a bit more robust than 'gentle'? Honestly...how old are we?

Exactly was does discouraging others from posting mean please?

It was said in the labour thread today by .jen

Our seven Welsh labour town councilors have been re elected , the Tory I have been battling with on a local site lost , serve him right for using personal attacks against our lot. And the mayoress who stands as an independant but is a Tory also attacked the labour candidates, she has been on the council for years - not for the next five