I Will Deal With It

Ah! Some whataboutery dj!

a comment about Labour's tax avoidance would have been more entertaining interesting.

Whilst you're scurrying around looking for more links, can you explain why Corbyn insisted that the 3 main measures that the Conservative party wanted to take, to stop non-Dom loopholes and accountants who deliberately help their clients with tax avoidance, should be dropped from the finance bill?

No Smileless they only concern me when someone chimes out a mantra which has no substance.

I'm not churning out a mantra GG, I'm expressing my opinions and my opinions having no substance is just your opinion.

Scurrying around?
They are on Fullfact. Just sitting here calmly finding links to show you that the Tories are the party who want low taxes.
Not difficult to find, but you don't want to believe it, do you?

I don't recall anyone saying that the Tories don't want low taxes.

Oh dear. You can't have low taxes and pay for the society that works for everyone. Low taxes mean food banks, poverty, low wages, destruction of the NHS and anything else of any value.

Does anyone believe Channel 4 fact checkers?

politicalscrapbook.net/2017/07/c4-fact-checkers-call-out-tories-over-disproved-claim-that-corbyn-pledged-to-write-off-student-debt/

No one wants higher taxes. If you pay your tax and think you should pay more, you'd just drop off a bag of money at the local hospital/school/HMRC office etc. To my knowledge, no one has ever done that.
People only ever want some one else to pay higher taxes.
Just my opinion.

Maybe the Tories want low taxes so that they have a fighting chance of getting some Labour party MPs to pay any! Quite a few Labour party MPs have shown a disinclination to pay their full share, haven't they? Is it a case of "do as I say, not do as I do" where tax responsibility comes in? They don't exactly set an example of good,,caring, responsible citizenship do they?

Sorry, but there's another thread about paying for care, and people on there definitely want to pay more taxes.
The majority of people have said they are prepared to pay higher taxes for a better NHS, so you are just plain wrong.

How pathetic to say anyone who wants to pay more tax can just drop off a bag of money...
Tax is about fairness. How can you not see that?

Examples, please, Darnsarf.
I do not know any Labour MPs who do not pay their taxes.
I hope you can back up what you say.

dj they do not vote for it though. What people say they want and what they vote for are sometimes different.

Tax avoidance has the same effect dj; better to pay less tax than no tax at all.

Darnsarf gave an example of the Labour party's tax avoidance dj and you failed to comment on it. Do you really want her to give examples of Labour MP's who haven't paid all they should have, so you can fail to comment on that too?

Lowering corporation tax actually increased revenues - there was an article in FT about it. "Treasury collected £56bn from business, a 21% increase on the previous year". It may seem counterintuitive, but it works.

I'd just prefer it if everyone paid their taxes and everyone agreed it was a fair share. Before I get attacked on my values or position on tax.

"It’s true that MPs’ total incomes, while often significantly more than the average Brit, are just a drop in the ocean compared to major corporations. But MPs are also the ones who set British tax policy, and they have a say in worldwide tax policy. For instance, in January 2016, the Observer revealed that Tory MEPs were lobbying the EU to protect Google’s £30bn tax haven island. The Mirror discovered that 12 top Tory donors were being investigated by HMRC for taking advantage of tax avoidance schemes. It’s clear that there is an overlap here between what benefits the Tories directly and what the rules are in terms of tax avoidance. That’s why we need total transparency for all MPs when it comes to their taxes.

MPs are elected by us to decide how to spend the taxes we pay. Our taxes for pay their salaries, their expenses, their staff, and their homes. They are in the unique position of being paid public money while also deciding how it is spent. This means they have a responsibility to be as transparent as they can with the British people, so that we can hold them to account. We shouldn’t be asking ourselves why Corbyn has published his tax return; we should be asking why Philip Hammond won’t publish his."

Guardian.

Fairness? Is it fair that Hillary Benn minimised the inheritance tax in his 4.1 million pounds house by immediately passing it onto his children. Margaret Hodge happens to own shares in a family business that paid only 163,000 tax on revenue of 2.1 billion in 2011. And the Labour party runs a property company called Labour Party Properties Ltd catchy name which earned 8 million pounds in rental income but paid ZERO tax for 8 years. To roughly quote Matthew 7.5 "Why do you look at the speck in your brothers eye but fail to notice the plank in your own?"

Any links or reports from other than the Guardian or the Mirror? Or squawky.box?

Not that I would consider those two eminent publications at all biased

I totally agree darnsarf. I can only speculate that as Emily Thornberry's husband is an off shore trust specialist lawyer, perhaps his expertise in tax avoidance helped them structure things ..... advantageously.

How did Darnsarf give an example of Labour party tax avoidance?
She just gave her opinion, not an example.

To be fair, I obtained the information from The Telegraph and The Backbencher. Neither are recent, 2013 and 2016 respectively. But I have no doubt that their reportage is as even handed and unbiased as The Guardian and The Mirror.

Gove thinks skwawkbox is okay.

Where do you think Darnsarf gets her information from? Nothing biased, of course. Guido fawkes, probably, or the DM or Telegraph.