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So, our Honourable friends the Brexiteers ...

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jura2 Wed 14-Nov-18 13:34:59

Are you happy now?

PECS Fri 16-Nov-18 07:53:38

annie the opposite of war..they are comrades!

jura2 Fri 16-Nov-18 17:25:29

ah well, spelling, who cares...

Yes, I have Day6, again and again, and some more.
And I just can't be asked (my speling) to do so again.

Chewbacca, yes I would- and so would many in the French speaking part. But it is a totally different situation- totally, and we do have very good and long established reciprocal agreements- that would take many years for UK to negotiate.

jura2 Fri 16-Nov-18 17:29:16

Apologies for delay- have had a rotten cold for 6 weeks- so to my wonderful doc this morning- and slept is off this afternoon, now I can breathe, without coughing- and of course trying to follow her orders to keep away.

Yes, what happened in Feb. 2014 just shows that Referendums are a very dangerous way to solve things- especially when the agenda comes from the anti-immigration far right.

jura2 Fri 16-Nov-18 17:31:06

... and the proof that a 'cake and eat it' middle deal cannot ever be accepted by the EU- not because they are bullies - but because if they agree for one, they'd have to agree for anyone else who asks. So easy to understand surely.

Same at your local squash club.

MawBroon Fri 16-Nov-18 17:43:03

ah well, spelling, who cares
Heaven forfend we should actually bother about getting a word right!
And you a former languages teacher!???...

MawBroon Fri 16-Nov-18 17:52:20

Petra that would be a No then

janeainsworth Fri 16-Nov-18 19:20:57

Yes, what happened in Feb. 2014 just shows that Referendums are a very dangerous way to solve things- especially when the agenda comes from the anti-immigration far right.

What happened in February 2014?
I was in a boat in the USA at the time.
I must have missed something. confused

jura2 Fri 16-Nov-18 19:29:32

In Switzerland, a Referendum to stop Free Movement, pushed by the far right SVP/UDC Party. Same very close result as for Brexit. FRench speaking part voted massively against it, small German speaking rural areas voted for it.

One the Swiss Government realised the massive damage it would inflict on Switzerland, the Economy, international research and innovation, pharmas, etc, etc, etc- it was decided the tiny majority in favour meant it would not be implemented. And that in a country where Referendums are binding, and where both sides of the arguments have to be explained very clearly in advance, in a booklet which is VERY carefully checked for lies, untruths and fraud... unlike a Parliamentary Democracy like the UK where they can only be rare and advisory. Because at the end of the day, no country really wants to commit stupid suicide.

Some teachers know that some things are more important than others ;)

MawBroon Fri 16-Nov-18 19:31:21

Or some things get lost in translation Jura.

Jalima1108 Fri 16-Nov-18 19:33:38

small German speaking rural areas voted for it.
Gosh, that is very worrying.
I thought lessons had been learned from the past.

MawBroon Fri 16-Nov-18 19:33:41

I remember a Norwegian fruendvwho taught English in my second school giving us directions to her house which involved “turning left at the bollocks”
She meant bollards but who cares eh?

MawBroon Fri 16-Nov-18 19:34:34

“Friend” (fat finger syndrome ?)

Jalima1108 Fri 16-Nov-18 19:35:08

grin

imo it's all a load of bollards

MawBroon Fri 16-Nov-18 19:43:17

Or indeed Lollards - only one letter different ?

www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/middle_ages/lollards_01.shtml

jura2 Fri 16-Nov-18 20:00:05

oh yes, very interesting lollard.

Lost in translation - or pure prejudice and nasty personal attacks.

I taught French and German- so didn't have those issues. Some of my British colleagues did make some real clangers and terrible mistakes - and it was funny. Some were fabulous teachers, who enthusiastically taught and inspired the children to learn. A few were sticklers for difficult points of grammar- to compensate for their total lack of teaching ability- and managed to put kids off learning right from the start.

Priorities, as always- I know mine. Signing off for tonight- so don't bother.

Got a young man from France doing an intensive English course at the moment, in exchange for doing some painting for us. Everyday, after his 2 hours- he says- wow, if only we'd been taught like that in school. Love it.

Jalima1108 Fri 16-Nov-18 20:01:23

Thanks MawBroon I will try to remember that for a quiz tomorrow night!!

Lollard (I remembered John Wycliffe)

MawBroon Fri 16-Nov-18 20:09:52

Clearly didn’t teach Italian though gringrin

jura2 Fri 16-Nov-18 21:45:26

No, was doing AS Level when I left UK lol.

Children in Need - wonderful. Love kids - such a wonderful, refreshing change. So sad so many are totally put off learning languages by very poor teaching - all spellings correct, subjunctive and pluperfect- but no communication, nor soul. Tragic. Bonne nuit.

MawBroon Fri 16-Nov-18 22:29:12

Bone unit également

MawBroon Fri 16-Nov-18 22:48:33

What a relief your six week cold permitted this intensive teaching.
Hope you didn’t pass it on to your student though ?

jura2 Sat 17-Nov-18 09:45:36

We started 2 weeks ago, when I thought the cold was finished- and had to cancel Thursday as I was coughing so much. Will pick up next week - he is creosoting the back balcony now- and it is VERY cold- poor thing. We are doing an exchange (and no bones about it ;) )

Now back to subject. Have you been wondering why BoJo has gone so quiet? So apparently plotting with daddy and bestie Farage at the pub. Now that is a whole different kettle of 'Three blokes in a Pub' for sure. Be afraid.

Luckygirl Sat 17-Nov-18 10:58:15

I don't think anyone, whichever way they voted, could have predicted the total incompetence and unedifying back-stabbing and political manoeuvring that has characterised this process. It is pathetic.

We are entitled to expect better. Some hopes.

jura2 Sat 17-Nov-18 12:28:33

As for young people, our grandchildren - one young man put it very well on Question Time on Thursday evening.
Our generation will not be easily forgiven for this mess.
I am so glad I'd be able to look them straight in the face and say that I did try to prevent it.

Davidhs Sat 17-Nov-18 12:46:30

Jura, Swiss referendum.
The version I heard was that they did not implement the result, but, foreigners have to enrol with with an employment agency to find work.

Did this happen, it sounds a neat sidestep.

Jalima1108 Sat 17-Nov-18 13:00:42

Our generation will not be easily forgiven for this mess.
If, like mine, your DGC are under 12, I think they should be looking at the half generation above them who did not bother to vote.

Had they shaken off their inertia and got out there to exercise their franchise this would not have happened.